Vikings -3.5

Beastmode · 01-08-2018, 10:05 AM

Thielen has had some big games but also some real duds. A good CB on him and he shuts down. Going to be much more difficult this time for him with or starting CB's on the field. I could see him having a bad day.

They have a good D line though. I don't see them selling out like the Panthers either.

RailBoss · 01-08-2018, 10:09 AM

Absolutely, Ginn is a speedster just another one of Drew's weapons when the running game gets shut down.
Should be a big factor in the Vikes game.

Barry from MS · 01-08-2018, 10:40 AM

Vikes #1 defense in a division with the high flying Bears offense, a Rodgers-less Packers, and a Lions offense whose leading rusher had just over 500 yards this season.

They also had the Browns, Bucs, & Bengals. That's 9 games against below-average offenses. Steelers, Redskins, and Panties put up 26, 30, & 31 on these guys.

Vikes D is very good, but you can see the flaw in that #1 ranking. Not the 85 Bears here.

voodooido · 01-08-2018, 01:19 PM

Vikings are nothing but defense and field position. They remind me of Bama. Little to no offense. Rely on a stout defense and wear down the opposing teams defensive front 7. They look to the 2nd half to attempt to pull away. I could see the saints blowing this game wide open with the right play calling.

Vrillon82 · 01-08-2018, 04:15 PM

I think the Saints will go there and pull away big to.

I been wrong and may be wrong this time. But theirs alot about the #1 and #2 seeds in the NFC this year that scares me none when you start to really look at the resumes and situations.

homerj07 · 01-08-2018, 06:34 PM

The mantra continues... Just win!

Danno · 01-08-2018, 07:39 PM

Carolina beat them, and we beat Carolina 3 times.

I'm OK with our chances

Danno · 01-08-2018, 07:59 PM

They also played a wussy schedule.

AFC North (3-1), Lost to Steelers
NFC South (3-1), Lost to Panthers
NFC North (5-1), Lost to Lions
NFC others (2-0), Rams and Redskins

They are 3-2 versus playoff teams, all 3 wins at home.
We are 5-4 versus playoff teams

Color me unimpressed. Good team, but not great.

burningmetal · 01-08-2018, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

He definitely physically impresses me. Fast, great hands, good routes. They have similar measurables athletically, but Thielen has more size. I just think Diggs is slightly better and would have explosive numbers too if he was targets 8 to 10 times a game. I wouldn’t be upset about somebody thinking Thielen is better. He delivered all year in fantasy football for me.

I just think that if he's getting the most targets, it must mean he's seen as more reliable and gets open more. Not to say Diggs isn't good, but I think he'd be the featured receiver if he were a better receiver than Thielen.

When I saw Thielen against the Saints in the first game, I didn't see anything about him that stood out, but all I know is nobody could seem to cover him, and apparently he's been able to do that against most teams, much to my surprise.

burningmetal · 01-08-2018, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Vikes #1 defense in a division with the high flying Bears offense, a Rodgers-less Packers, and a Lions offense whose leading rusher had just over 500 yards this season.

They also had the Browns, Bucs, & Bengals. That's 9 games against below-average offenses. Steelers, Redskins, and Panties put up 26, 30, & 31 on these guys.

Vikes D is very good, but you can see the flaw in that #1 ranking. Not the 85 Bears here.

Nobody has the '85 Bears defense, but they sure made the Saints look awful in week one.

01-08-2018, 10:05 AM	#11
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Vikings -3.5 Thielen has had some big games but also some real duds. A good CB on him and he shuts down. Going to be much more difficult this time for him with or starting CB's on the field. I could see him having a bad day. They have a good D line though. I don't see them selling out like the Panthers either.
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01-08-2018, 10:09 AM	#12
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Vikings -3.5 Absolutely, Ginn is a speedster just another one of Drew's weapons when the running game gets shut down. Should be a big factor in the Vikes game.

01-08-2018, 10:40 AM	#13
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Vikings -3.5 Vikes #1 defense in a division with the high flying Bears offense, a Rodgers-less Packers, and a Lions offense whose leading rusher had just over 500 yards this season. They also had the Browns, Bucs, & Bengals. That's 9 games against below-average offenses. Steelers, Redskins, and Panties put up 26, 30, & 31 on these guys. Vikes D is very good, but you can see the flaw in that #1 ranking. Not the 85 Bears here. SaintFanInATLHELL, Danno, ScottF and 5 others like this.

01-08-2018, 01:19 PM	#14
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,797	Re: Vikings -3.5 Vikings are nothing but defense and field position. They remind me of Bama. Little to no offense. Rely on a stout defense and wear down the opposing teams defensive front 7. They look to the 2nd half to attempt to pull away. I could see the saints blowing this game wide open with the right play calling.
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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Vikings -3.5 I think the Saints will go there and pull away big to. I been wrong and may be wrong this time. But theirs alot about the #1 and #2 seeds in the NFC this year that scares me none when you start to really look at the resumes and situations.
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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Vikings -3.5 Originally Posted by rezburna He definitely physically impresses me. Fast, great hands, good routes. They have similar measurables athletically, but Thielen has more size. I just think Diggs is slightly better and would have explosive numbers too if he was targets 8 to 10 times a game. I wouldn’t be upset about somebody thinking Thielen is better. He delivered all year in fantasy football for me. I just think that if he's getting the most targets, it must mean he's seen as more reliable and gets open more. Not to say Diggs isn't good, but I think he'd be the featured receiver if he were a better receiver than Thielen. When I saw Thielen against the Saints in the first game, I didn't see anything about him that stood out, but all I know is nobody could seem to cover him, and apparently he's been able to do that against most teams, much to my surprise.

01-08-2018, 08:09 PM	#20
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Vikings -3.5 Originally Posted by Barry from MS Vikes #1 defense in a division with the high flying Bears offense, a Rodgers-less Packers, and a Lions offense whose leading rusher had just over 500 yards this season. They also had the Browns, Bucs, & Bengals. That's 9 games against below-average offenses. Steelers, Redskins, and Panties put up 26, 30, & 31 on these guys. Vikes D is very good, but you can see the flaw in that #1 ranking. Not the 85 Bears here. Nobody has the '85 Bears defense, but they sure made the Saints look awful in week one.

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