Saw this on a Vikings Board message board

billyt81 · 01-11-2018, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

How are the Vikes the best D? They are good but they are no Jags. I watched the Jags maul the hell out of teams all season. They are not that team. Thielen also gets shutdown by good CB's. He's no Michael Thomas that's for damn sure. Oh, and they lost to the Panthers so not buying any of their BS hype. They are no better than us right now. Probably worse though because their QB has no playoff experience and is known to blow big games. Reason why he is a backup after being a starter and only a starter by default. He won't be a starter next year after tanking this game because that is what backups do.

Thielen is great. He scares me for sure. Lattimore vs Thielen and Diggs will be fun to watch. I hope we get good pressure on Keenum all day.

exiled · 01-11-2018, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That is part of every team's game plan against every team on every week during every year. We just happened to be FAR better at doing it than other teams.

I think you are correct - my fear is (for me) that we may pay... for me - all bets are off (for NOLA SAINTS) when facing Minneapolis in the post season.

For Minneapolis fans 2009 was not long ago. Their dome is comparable to ours - the fans will be fired up - it is loud in there - and it will cause problems.

CheramieIII · 01-11-2018, 08:12 AM

Revenge is sweet only if you don't plan it. They beat us at our house and now it's our turn.

The Dude · 01-11-2018, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

How are the Vikes the best D? They are good but they are no Jags. I watched the Jags maul the hell out of teams all season. They are not that team. Thielen also gets shutdown by good CB's. He's no Michael Thomas that's for damn sure. Oh, and they lost to the Panthers so not buying any of their BS hype. They are no better than us right now. Probably worse though because their QB has no playoff experience and is known to blow big games. Reason why he is a backup after being a starter and only a starter by default. He won't be a starter next year after tanking this game because that is what backups do.

I think they are number 1 overall

2017 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN

AsylumGuido · 01-11-2018, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I think they are number 1 overall

2017 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN

You have to take into consideration their opponents. They had six games against their weak division mates (5-1), four games against the AFC North including the Browns, Bengals and reduced Ravens (3-1) and four versus the NFC South including the Bucs and the Saints before we got our feet under us. That was a pretty soft schedule which would skew stats in their favor.

K Major · 01-11-2018, 11:02 AM

^^^
+1. The last 4 weeks (except the Panthers), the Vikes D have beaten up on below average offenses. Bears, Packers, Bengals are all at home.

This Saints team will give the Vikings all kind of fits.

Rugby Saint II · 01-11-2018, 12:53 PM

Hey Coach......get the team ready again like you've been doing and we should be fine.

SaintsBro · 01-11-2018, 01:11 PM

It's one of those things where you play the schedule in front of you.

The Vikings are nominally the #1 defense, on paper, but they lost to the Steelers, the Lions and Panthers. Those are all pretty good teams with above-decent-to-very-good offenses and QB's. Then their games against the Falcons, Lions and Redskins were all sorta close, almost nail biters or toss-ups. That list has one really good team and and two sorta half decent teams. Then the Vikes had that first game against the Saints, in which the Saints had a new young defense and a different offensive game plan from now, and the Vikes back then had a different quarterback, a different running back, and I don't think the Saints team overall had really had a chance to gell yet.

So I'm not saying the Vikes D are hot garbage, but I really don't see where the Vikes have played anybody really difficult or tough offensively, this year except for the Steelers, Lions and Panthers, which they lost all three; and the Falcons, which they won but it was a very close game. So I guess we shall see how tough they really are. But Drew has played against tough or stout defenses before, and won. So I feel pretty good about it.

jlaw8920 · 01-11-2018, 01:33 PM

Turns out the Vikings also had a bounty program when Brett Favre was QB | Vikings Wire

saintfan · 01-11-2018, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by jlaw8920

Turns out the Vikings also had a bounty program when Brett Favre was QB | Vikings Wire

The whole league was doing it - and it wasn't a 'bounty'. Roger is an idiot's idiot.

01-11-2018, 01:23 AM	#21
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board Originally Posted by Beastmode How are the Vikes the best D? They are good but they are no Jags. I watched the Jags maul the hell out of teams all season. They are not that team. Thielen also gets shutdown by good CB's. He's no Michael Thomas that's for damn sure. Oh, and they lost to the Panthers so not buying any of their BS hype. They are no better than us right now. Probably worse though because their QB has no playoff experience and is known to blow big games. Reason why he is a backup after being a starter and only a starter by default. He won't be a starter next year after tanking this game because that is what backups do. Thielen is great. He scares me for sure. Lattimore vs Thielen and Diggs will be fun to watch. I hope we get good pressure on Keenum all day.

01-11-2018, 03:06 AM	#22
exiled Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the road - now based in Austin, TX Posts: 483	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That is part of every team's game plan against every team on every week during every year. We just happened to be FAR better at doing it than other teams. I think you are correct - my fear is (for me) that we may pay... for me - all bets are off (for NOLA SAINTS) when facing Minneapolis in the post season. For Minneapolis fans 2009 was not long ago. Their dome is comparable to ours - the fans will be fired up - it is loud in there - and it will cause problems.

01-11-2018, 08:12 AM	#23
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board Revenge is sweet only if you don't plan it. They beat us at our house and now it's our turn.

01-11-2018, 09:57 AM	#24
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board Originally Posted by Beastmode How are the Vikes the best D? They are good but they are no Jags. I watched the Jags maul the hell out of teams all season. They are not that team. Thielen also gets shutdown by good CB's. He's no Michael Thomas that's for damn sure. Oh, and they lost to the Panthers so not buying any of their BS hype. They are no better than us right now. Probably worse though because their QB has no playoff experience and is known to blow big games. Reason why he is a backup after being a starter and only a starter by default. He won't be a starter next year after tanking this game because that is what backups do. I think they are number 1 overall 2017 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN
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01-11-2018, 10:32 AM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board Originally Posted by The Dude I think they are number 1 overall 2017 NFL Team Total Stats - National Football League - ESPN You have to take into consideration their opponents. They had six games against their weak division mates (5-1), four games against the AFC North including the Browns, Bengals and reduced Ravens (3-1) and four versus the NFC South including the Bucs and the Saints before we got our feet under us. That was a pretty soft schedule which would skew stats in their favor. K Major likes this.

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01-11-2018, 11:02 AM	#26
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board ^^^ +1. The last 4 weeks (except the Panthers), the Vikes D have beaten up on below average offenses. Bears, Packers, Bengals are all at home. This Saints team will give the Vikings all kind of fits.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board It's one of those things where you play the schedule in front of you. The Vikings are nominally the #1 defense, on paper, but they lost to the Steelers, the Lions and Panthers. Those are all pretty good teams with above-decent-to-very-good offenses and QB's. Then their games against the Falcons, Lions and Redskins were all sorta close, almost nail biters or toss-ups. That list has one really good team and and two sorta half decent teams. Then the Vikes had that first game against the Saints, in which the Saints had a new young defense and a different offensive game plan from now, and the Vikes back then had a different quarterback, a different running back, and I don't think the Saints team overall had really had a chance to gell yet. So I'm not saying the Vikes D are hot garbage, but I really don't see where the Vikes have played anybody really difficult or tough offensively, this year except for the Steelers, Lions and Panthers, which they lost all three; and the Falcons, which they won but it was a very close game. So I guess we shall see how tough they really are. But Drew has played against tough or stout defenses before, and won. So I feel pretty good about it.

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01-11-2018, 01:47 PM	#30
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saw this on a Vikings Board message board Originally Posted by jlaw8920 Turns out the Vikings also had a bounty program when Brett Favre was QB \| Vikings Wire The whole league was doing it - and it wasn't a 'bounty'. Roger is an idiot's idiot.

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