Are our tight ends as bad as most seem to think?

Euphoria · 01-17-2018, 10:10 AM

Here is the problem with a Jimmy type TE.

We became to dependent on the TE position. Everytime we needed to pass it when to Jimmy who got open or could catch over peoples head. Our WR I don't think were thown to as often and our office wasn't explosive because of it. We were limited on the big plays.

I think the way we are built right now getting another dynamic WR and a TE. We just can't become to dependant on dumping off to the TE so much. I much rather see an imporvement on the OL and with depth.

The Dude · 01-17-2018, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Here is the problem with a Jimmy type TE.

We became to dependent on the TE position. Everytime we needed to pass it when to Jimmy who got open or could catch over peoples head. Our WR I don't think were thown to as often and our office wasn't explosive because of it. We were limited on the big plays.

I think the way we are built right now getting another dynamic WR and a TE. We just can't become to dependant on dumping off to the TE so much. I much rather see an imporvement on the OL and with depth.

I doubt it. Back then we had no defense and our game plan was simply to outscore opponents. We had no running game so it made us pretty one dimensional. Just because we get a good pass catching TE doesn’t mean we automatically go back to that.

foreverfan · 01-17-2018, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Short memories 'round here...

We throw to that playmaker at TE and we're 7-9, 7-9, 7-9...

We start running the ball, putting that money into the lines, we make a strong showing in the tournament...

We ran out of horses on the offensive line (Mr. Glass aka Armstead can't seem to play an entire season)...

We ran out of horses on the defensive line (Rookie Hendrickson never had chance to get healthy and then Okafor)...

We ran out of horses at linebacker (We finished with our No. 5 and 6 LBer with a FA signed off street 6 weeks ago)...

Finish fixing the offensive line and the front seven on defense, replace Vaccaro if necessary, then worry about TE...

Even worse memory... Do you remember our defense?

CheramieIII · 01-17-2018, 06:45 AM

I would love to see us draft a TE with our 2nd pick and resign Graham and keep alphabet and Hill maybe?

K Major · 01-17-2018, 08:19 AM

Bring Jimmy Dickens back? If he can be had at a "fair" price, I'd be all in. Wonder what Brees thinks?

vpheughan · 01-17-2018, 10:38 AM

I'm sure some one knows "THE KID" who'll fills the bill perfectly!!

K Major · 01-17-2018, 10:46 AM

Cameron Brate?

* He was on our practice squad back in 2015.

triman · 01-17-2018, 11:09 AM

We missed Fleener as receiver and as decoy. I would love to find a complete TE that can block and catch.Think Witten. They are very rare. I would love to have two TE like the PATS had with the murderer and Gronk. however Brate who be a good upgrade . Trey Burton eagle TE is another young and improving free agent.

hagan714 · 01-17-2018, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Cameron Brate?

* He was on our practice squad back in 2015.

Cameron Brate TE Tampa 6050 249 4.77
he has come a long way. but traditional TE are bountiful in this draft. i would be ok with the signing

there are not any dynamic split TE in the draft or in FA really.

Rugby Saint II · 01-17-2018, 01:20 PM

Brees needs some additional receiving weapons. If we had a top notch TE and another large receiver we would have been able to convert more third downs and would be even more competitive.

01-17-2018, 10:10 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Are our tight ends as bad as most seem to think? Here is the problem with a Jimmy type TE. We became to dependent on the TE position. Everytime we needed to pass it when to Jimmy who got open or could catch over peoples head. Our WR I don't think were thown to as often and our office wasn't explosive because of it. We were limited on the big plays. I think the way we are built right now getting another dynamic WR and a TE. We just can't become to dependant on dumping off to the TE so much. I much rather see an imporvement on the OL and with depth. foreverfan and Rugby Saint II like this.
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01-17-2018, 11:40 AM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Are our tight ends as bad as most seem to think? Originally Posted by Euphoria Here is the problem with a Jimmy type TE. We became to dependent on the TE position. Everytime we needed to pass it when to Jimmy who got open or could catch over peoples head. Our WR I don't think were thown to as often and our office wasn't explosive because of it. We were limited on the big plays. I think the way we are built right now getting another dynamic WR and a TE. We just can't become to dependant on dumping off to the TE so much. I much rather see an imporvement on the OL and with depth. I doubt it. Back then we had no defense and our game plan was simply to outscore opponents. We had no running game so it made us pretty one dimensional. Just because we get a good pass catching TE doesn’t mean we automatically go back to that.
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01-17-2018, 10:23 AM	#3
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Are our tight ends as bad as most seem to think? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Short memories 'round here... We throw to that playmaker at TE and we're 7-9, 7-9, 7-9... We start running the ball, putting that money into the lines, we make a strong showing in the tournament... We ran out of horses on the offensive line (Mr. Glass aka Armstead can't seem to play an entire season)... We ran out of horses on the defensive line (Rookie Hendrickson never had chance to get healthy and then Okafor)... We ran out of horses at linebacker (We finished with our No. 5 and 6 LBer with a FA signed off street 6 weeks ago)... Finish fixing the offensive line and the front seven on defense, replace Vaccaro if necessary, then worry about TE... Even worse memory... Do you remember our defense?

01-17-2018, 06:45 AM	#4
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01-17-2018, 08:19 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Are our tight ends as bad as most seem to think? Bring Jimmy Dickens back? If he can be had at a "fair" price, I'd be all in. Wonder what Brees thinks?

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Are our tight ends as bad as most seem to think? Cameron Brate? * He was on our practice squad back in 2015. hagan714 likes this.

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01-17-2018, 06:09 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Are our tight ends as bad as most seem to think? Originally Posted by K Major Cameron Brate? * He was on our practice squad back in 2015. Cameron Brate TE Tampa 6050 249 4.77 he has come a long way. but traditional TE are bountiful in this draft. i would be ok with the signing there are not any dynamic split TE in the draft or in FA really.

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