Saints need to be mindful of the present and future when negotiating with Drew Brees

01-22-2018, 02:22 PM

ScottF · 01-22-2018, 02:31 PM

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The Dude · 01-22-2018, 05:34 PM

Stay or go, whatever thanks for the memories. I don’t care who’s under Center next year as long as it’s the best man for the job. I would part ways with Brees in a heartbeat if it meant another ring. Some people would be fine with just making the playoffs as long as Brees was still Qb.

saintfan · 01-22-2018, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Stay or go, whatever thanks for the memories. I don’t care who’s under Center next year as long as it’s the best man for the job. I would part ways with Brees in a heartbeat if it meant another ring. Some people would be fine with just making the playoffs as long as Brees was still Qb.

How would parting with Drew increase our chances?

jnormand · 01-22-2018, 06:39 PM

Yay! Another off season full of the Brees contract issue. At least we don't have listen to the media saying Payton is on the "hot seat" again.

Just hurry up and sign Brees so we don't have to listen to the "rumors" and all the other bs.

AsylumGuido · 01-22-2018, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

How would parting with Drew increase our chances?

It wouldn't. Anyone with half a brain would see that.

The Dude · 01-22-2018, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It wouldn't. Anyone with half a brain would see that.

I prefer PayPal thanks.

voodooido · 01-22-2018, 08:46 PM

3 years 60 million with 20 as a signing bonus. First year worth 10 million with the rest back loaded. Win now!!!

jeanpierre · 01-22-2018, 11:55 PM

Brees is with us for at least one season - to become the All-Time Passing Yardage Leader - you can bet the house on it...

Saints as a franchise needs this kind of history in its plummage...

Criticism I have is why the Saints didn't redo his deal two seasons back when...

one, we needed cap room and defensive ends were abound in the FA market, and...

two, a fifth grader could figure our what season Brees was going to become the All-Time PaYd Leader...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-23-2018, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

3 years 60 million with 20 as a signing bonus. First year worth 10 million with the rest back loaded. Win now!!!

I need to keep reminding everyone of the real numbers of the situation:

1. Brees current contract averages $24.5 million/year.

2. Top NFL contracts are in the $27.5 million/year range now.

3. The Saints are already on the hook for $18 million from the last contract in dead money no matter if Brees is on the squad or not.

$20 million a year for a top 5 NFL QB is a pay cut. Period. End of discussion.

Brees holds all the cards. I think that thought frustrates some of you. Let me give you some perspective. Kirk Cousins may get his third (and final) franchise tag with Washington this spring. That tag is worth $34.5 million. Brees cannot be tagged (per contract). If he could it would be his 3rd tag too. And he's better than Cousins.

So I'd suggest that everyone get that weak $20 million/year number out of here and start thinking in the current 2018 world where the team salary cap
is in fact going to be about $180 million.

Brees showed with his last contract that he understands the balance between getting top NFL QB money and managing the salary cap so that other parts of the team can be shored up. Expect the next contract to be similar to the previous one in structure: high guaranteed up front money, longer terms to spread out the cap hit, voidable years. In short a 1-2 year contract that's 4-5 years on paper. But it'll be at higher money than the last one, not less money.

SFIAH

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints need to be mindful of the present and future when negotiating with Drew Brees Brees is with us for at least one season - to become the All-Time Passing Yardage Leader - you can bet the house on it... Saints as a franchise needs this kind of history in its plummage... Criticism I have is why the Saints didn't redo his deal two seasons back when... one, we needed cap room and defensive ends were abound in the FA market, and... two, a fifth grader could figure our what season Brees was going to become the All-Time PaYd Leader... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Saints need to be mindful of the present and future when negotiating with Drew Brees Originally Posted by voodooido 3 years 60 million with 20 as a signing bonus. First year worth 10 million with the rest back loaded. Win now!!! I need to keep reminding everyone of the real numbers of the situation: 1. Brees current contract averages $24.5 million/year. 2. Top NFL contracts are in the $27.5 million/year range now. 3. The Saints are already on the hook for $18 million from the last contract in dead money no matter if Brees is on the squad or not. $20 million a year for a top 5 NFL QB is a pay cut. Period. End of discussion. Brees holds all the cards. I think that thought frustrates some of you. Let me give you some perspective. Kirk Cousins may get his third (and final) franchise tag with Washington this spring. That tag is worth $34.5 million. Brees cannot be tagged (per contract). If he could it would be his 3rd tag too. And he's better than Cousins. So I'd suggest that everyone get that weak $20 million/year number out of here and start thinking in the current 2018 world where the team salary cap is in fact going to be about $180 million. Brees showed with his last contract that he understands the balance between getting top NFL QB money and managing the salary cap so that other parts of the team can be shored up. Expect the next contract to be similar to the previous one in structure: high guaranteed up front money, longer terms to spread out the cap hit, voidable years. In short a 1-2 year contract that's 4-5 years on paper. But it'll be at higher money than the last one, not less money. SFIAH ScottF likes this.
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