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voodooido 01-31-2018 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 791069)
I think the only free agents I would like to bring in are SS Eric Reid and DT DaQuan Jones.

Eric Reid is great but Jaquiski Tartt really emerged for the 49ers so Reid is likely to move on.

DaQuan Jones is a mammoth at 6’4”, 320 lbs with dominant run-stuffing ability and good pass rush skills.
Reid is a cancer. No thanks. Our young safeties will be just fine without this douche.

voodooido 01-31-2018 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 791117)
Potential cap casualties - WR position

Allen Hurns - $7M cap #, JAC saves $7M if they cut him
Travis Benjamin - $7M cap #, LAC saves $4.5M if they cut him ($5.75M if post June 1)
Brandon LaFell - $4M cap #, CIN saves $4M if they cut him
Cordarrelle Patterson - $3.25M cap #, OAK saves $3.25M if they cut him
Torrey Smith - $5M cap #, PHI saves $5M if they cut him
Cole Beasley - $4.25M cap #, DAL saves $3.25M if they cut him
Tavon Austin - $8M cap #, LAR saves $3M if they cut him
Markus Wheaton - $5.75M cap #, CHI saves $5M if they cut him
Demaryius Thomas - $12M cap #, DEN saves $5M if they cut him ($8.5M if post June 1)
Dez Bryant - $16.5M cap #, DAL saves $8.5M if they cut him ($12.5M if post June 1)
Michael Crabtree - $7.7M cap #, OAK saves $7.7M if they cut him
Emmanuel Sanders - $10M cap #, DEN saves $5.5M if they cut him ($8.25M if cut post June 1)
Rishard Matthews - $5.8M cap #, TEN saves $5M if they cut him
DeSean Jackson - $11M cap #, TB saves $3.5M if they cut him
Jermaine Kearse - $5M cap #, NYJ saves $5M if they cut him
Jackson, Matthews, Austin, Wheaton and Bryant are either douche bags or dope heads. No thanks.

jeanpierre 01-31-2018 05:12 PM
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jeanpierre 01-31-2018 05:18 PM
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Keep an eye out for how the Cowboys tender DL David Irving, Cowboys (RFA); if they go light, he could be in play...

K Major 01-31-2018 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 791188)
Nigel is a player I've mentioned several times on this forum. I'd like him in New Orleans.

saintfan 01-31-2018 08:14 PM
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I'd like for us to sign me.

MarchingOn 01-31-2018 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 790590)
Drew Brees QB 39
Kenny Vaccaro SS 26
Alex Okafor DE 26
Senio Kelemete G 27
John Kuhn FB 35
Tony McDaniel DT 32
Chase Daniel QB 31
Clay Harbor TE 30
Sterling Moore CB 27
John Phillips TE 30
Rafael Bush FS 30
Josh LeRibeus C 28
Zach Line FB 27
Gerald Hodges OLB 26
Michael Mauti OLB 27
John Hughes DE 29
George Johnson DE 30
Jonathan Freeny OLB 28
Kasim Edebali OLB 28
Audie Cole ILB 28

Drew Brees QB 39
Sterling Moore CB 27
Senio Kelemete G 27
George Johnson DE 30
Alex Okafor DE 26
John Hughes DE 29
Tony McDaniel DT 32
Rafael Bush FS 30

Rell&Gold 01-31-2018 11:03 PM
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I remember when some Saints fan here said Malcolm Jenkins would get "overpaid" Look at em now.

Sign: Brees Kelemete Vacarro Okafor George Johnson LeRibeus

Rell&Gold 01-31-2018 11:04 PM
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Rafael Bush is a walking first down

dizzle88 02-01-2018 07:15 AM
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The thing about Jenkins is that he was not as good as he is now. He has openly stated that when the Saints let him walk, it really opened his eyes and made him work at his craft a lot harder.

Bottom line, he got too comfortable as a starter for us and it showed often in his play.

saintsfan1976 02-01-2018 07:56 AM
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Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead.

Rugby Saint II 02-01-2018 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 791211)
The thing about Jenkins is that he was not as good as he is now. He has openly stated that when the Saints let him walk, it really opened his eyes and made him work at his craft a lot harder.

Bottom line, he got too comfortable as a starter for us and it showed often in his play.
Maybe he finally got some good coaching. I know our position coaches sucked before we fired them and got fresh faces in the building.

voodooido 02-01-2018 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 791205)
Rafael Bush is a walking first down
I think you mean PJ Williams. I pray he gets his pink slip.

jeanpierre 02-01-2018 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 791215)
Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead.
Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years...

I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone...

jeanpierre 02-02-2018 08:06 PM
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FinSaint 02-03-2018 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 791204)
I remember when some Saints fan here said Malcolm Jenkins would get "overpaid" Look at em now.

I'll point out myself as one of those without no shame and with no crow on my plate.

Jenkins is not the same player now, or during his time in Philly, that the Saints let walk back in the day.

Jenkins has said himself that the Saints not re-signing him was a wake-up call, which made him evaluate and improve his gameplay to the level its been with the Eagles. I have zero doubt that the Saints' defensive coaching staff as it was then and has been since for a lot of years couldn't have coached him up, if the spark to improve wouldn't have come from inside the player. Re-signing him could've sent a message that the Saints were satisfied with his level of play, and he would've remained pretty much the same player.

No way should the Saints have given him what the Eagles gave him (=overpaid from the Saints' standpoint).

Hind-sight is great, but it doesn't change the facts that were true at that moment in time the decision to let him walk was made.

jeanpierre 02-03-2018 08:45 AM
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Would absolutely love to sign this guy away from the Panthers; kick either Peat or Ramczyk to Left Tackle, then get our second rounder back by trading Mr. Glass...

jeanpierre 02-03-2018 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 791370)
I'll point out myself as one of those without no shame and with no crow on my plate.

Jenkins is not the same player now, or during his time in Philly, that the Saints let walk back in the day.

Jenkins has said himself that the Saints not re-signing him was a wake-up call, which made him evaluate and improve his gameplay to the level its been with the Eagles. I have zero doubt that the Saints' defensive coaching staff as it was then and has been since for a lot of years couldn't have coached him up, if the spark to improve wouldn't have come from inside the player. Re-signing him could've sent a message that the Saints were satisfied with his level of play, and he would've remained pretty much the same player.

No way should the Saints have given him what the Eagles gave him (=overpaid from the Saints' standpoint).

Hind-sight is great, but it doesn't change the facts that were true at that moment in time the decision to let him walk was made.
That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players...

Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll...

He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...

dizzle88 02-03-2018 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 791373)
That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players...

Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll...

He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...
I can't imagine Payton telling Bush to purposely miss huge holes and bounce every run outside though.

He probably just said Carroll because of how much success he had in college, which didn't fully take effect in the pro's.

The Dude 02-03-2018 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 791271)
Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years...

I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone...
I’m all over the idea of kicking Armstead to the curb. We don’t miss him when he’s out anyway. Kelemete could really excell if he was put at one position and every snap. Kick someone over to LT and call it a day.
I think a WR or at the very least a good TE is more important than people think.
Teams are going to work all offseason to find a way to stop our run game. We need to be able to air it out if we have to.

jeanpierre 02-03-2018 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 791382)
I can't imagine Payton telling Bush to purposely miss huge holes and bounce every run outside though.

He probably just said Carroll because of how much success he had in college, which didn't fully take effect in the pro's.
The tone in the interview suggested it was more than sour grapes; he even acknowledged that Payton put him in the best possible position to succeed...

You can tell by the way he sat up in the chair he had more respect for Carroll; this is the interview...


At 5:07 Bush tells you the best player he ever played with or against...

spkb25 02-04-2018 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 790590)
Drew Brees QB 39
Kenny Vaccaro SS 26
Alex Okafor DE 26
Senio Kelemete G 27
John Kuhn FB 35
Tony McDaniel DT 32
Chase Daniel QB 31
Clay Harbor TE 30
Sterling Moore CB 27
John Phillips TE 30
Rafael Bush FS 30
Josh LeRibeus C 28
Zach Line FB 27
Gerald Hodges OLB 26
Michael Mauti OLB 27
John Hughes DE 29
George Johnson DE 30
Jonathan Freeny OLB 28
Kasim Edebali OLB 28
Audie Cole ILB 28
Brees = no brainer

Senio is a no brainer in my mind,.Josh did well as a third too in his limited action. If the price is right would seem like a solid backup until we have something proven better. I thought George johnson really played well for us. Would like to see what that guy has to offer next year and let him compete. Zach is solid. I would bring Okafor back, he was having a really good year. Give him another one year deal. Due to the injury can't think he'd be expecting a lot.

Mauti and Hughes let compete?

Kenny I am torn with.

voodooido 02-04-2018 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 791405)
I’m all over the idea of kicking Armstead to the curb. We don’t miss him when he’s out anyway. Kelemete could really excell if he was put at one position and every snap. Kick someone over to LT and call it a day.
I think a WR or at the very least a good TE is more important than people think.
Teams are going to work all offseason to find a way to stop our run game. We need to be able to air it out if we have to.
There is no way we can afford to eat TA’s contract. I think his cap hit this year is 12-16 million. They may restructure to free up some room and let him walk in a couple of years. I hope SP has learned from these stupid contracts.

jeanpierre 02-06-2018 01:22 PM
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jeanpierre 02-06-2018 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 791423)
Brees = no brainer

Senio is a no brainer in my mind,.Josh did well as a third too in his limited action. If the price is right would seem like a solid backup until we have something proven better. I thought George johnson really played well for us. Would like to see what that guy has to offer next year and let him compete. Zach is solid. I would bring Okafor back, he was having a really good year. Give him another one year deal. Due to the injury can't think he'd be expecting a lot.

Mauti and Hughes let compete?

Kenny I am torn with.
Think there's a general consensus that Saints Fans want Senio Kelemete back, but he may want a starting gig, with starter's salary...

jeanpierre 02-06-2018 01:27 PM
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jeanpierre 02-06-2018 02:32 PM
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ChrisXVI 02-08-2018 07:47 PM
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You know who we need to go after in FA? NT Justin Ellis from the Raiders. 6’2” and 335 lbs of mountainous run-stopping goodness. He offers nothing as a pass rusher but he can be a relatively low-priced key addition.

jeanpierre 02-09-2018 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 791868)
You know who we need to go after in FA? NT Justin Ellis from the Raiders. 6’2” and 335 lbs of mountainous run-stopping goodness. He offers nothing as a pass rusher but he can be a relatively low-priced key addition.
Even if he doesn't get the sacks, he's got to get the pressures, crushing the pocket so the Ends can clean up...

ChrisXVI 02-09-2018 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 791961)
Even if he doesn't get the sacks, he's got to get the pressures, crushing the pocket so the Ends can clean up...
My ideal get would be DaQuan Jones. 6’4” and 322 lbs of great interior pressure AND run defense. Might be pretty hard though to pry him away from Mike Vrabel and Dean Pees in Tennessee.

jeanpierre 02-11-2018 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 791868)
You know who we need to go after in FA? NT Justin Ellis from the Raiders. 6’2” and 335 lbs of mountainous run-stopping goodness. He offers nothing as a pass rusher but he can be a relatively low-priced key addition.
I'm with Hagan on this thought; while I think Davison has been better than credited, we missed an opportunity with Damon Harrison who not only stopped the run, but was critical to collapsing pockets for his DE teammates...

jeanpierre 02-12-2018 06:49 AM
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jeanpierre 02-12-2018 07:34 AM
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Think the Saints sign him if he hits the open market...

jeanpierre 02-14-2018 12:33 PM
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Now this would be interesting...

saintfan 02-14-2018 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 792232)
:popcorn:

If his wig is on right this would be kinda nice...

:bng:

K Major 02-14-2018 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 792232)
Is this the same dude Bowles didn't bother bringing on the plane (coaches decision) vs the Saints just a few months back? He's been disciplined 4 times in 3 seasons under Todd? I don't think Mo gives a damn anymore about football.

Pass.

jeanpierre 02-14-2018 04:12 PM
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jeanpierre 02-14-2018 04:13 PM
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triman 02-14-2018 06:35 PM
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Sheldon Richardson is a player I would love to have On a one year with a second year option contract at about 9 million a year . Mo Wilkerson is another talented player that will be cut and he might have to take a prove it deal. DL could use a upgrade.

jeanpierre 02-14-2018 06:59 PM
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