2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign?

jeanpierre · 02-03-2018, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'll point out myself as one of those without no shame and with no crow on my plate.

Jenkins is not the same player now, or during his time in Philly, that the Saints let walk back in the day.

Jenkins has said himself that the Saints not re-signing him was a wake-up call, which made him evaluate and improve his gameplay to the level its been with the Eagles. I have zero doubt that the Saints' defensive coaching staff as it was then and has been since for a lot of years couldn't have coached him up, if the spark to improve wouldn't have come from inside the player. Re-signing him could've sent a message that the Saints were satisfied with his level of play, and he would've remained pretty much the same player.

No way should the Saints have given him what the Eagles gave him (=overpaid from the Saints' standpoint).

Hind-sight is great, but it doesn't change the facts that were true at that moment in time the decision to let him walk was made.

That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players...

Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll...

He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...

dizzle88 · 02-03-2018, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players...

Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll...

He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...

I can't imagine Payton telling Bush to purposely miss huge holes and bounce every run outside though.

He probably just said Carroll because of how much success he had in college, which didn't fully take effect in the pro's.

jeanpierre · 02-03-2018, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I can't imagine Payton telling Bush to purposely miss huge holes and bounce every run outside though.

He probably just said Carroll because of how much success he had in college, which didn't fully take effect in the pro's.

The tone in the interview suggested it was more than sour grapes; he even acknowledged that Payton put him in the best possible position to succeed...

You can tell by the way he sat up in the chair he had more respect for Carroll; this is the interview...

Reggie Bush reveals the best player he ever played with \| THE HERD (FULL INTERVIEW) - YouTube

At 5:07 Bush tells you the best player he ever played with or against...

Rell&Gold · 01-31-2018, 11:04 PM

Rafael Bush is a walking first down

voodooido · 02-01-2018, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Rafael Bush is a walking first down

I think you mean PJ Williams. I pray he gets his pink slip.

dizzle88 · 02-01-2018, 07:15 AM

The thing about Jenkins is that he was not as good as he is now. He has openly stated that when the Saints let him walk, it really opened his eyes and made him work at his craft a lot harder.

Bottom line, he got too comfortable as a starter for us and it showed often in his play.

Rugby Saint II · 02-01-2018, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The thing about Jenkins is that he was not as good as he is now. He has openly stated that when the Saints let him walk, it really opened his eyes and made him work at his craft a lot harder.

Bottom line, he got too comfortable as a starter for us and it showed often in his play.

Maybe he finally got some good coaching. I know our position coaches sucked before we fired them and got fresh faces in the building.

saintsfan1976 · 02-01-2018, 07:56 AM

Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead.

jeanpierre · 02-01-2018, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead.

Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years...

I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone...

The Dude · 02-03-2018, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years...

I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone...

I’m all over the idea of kicking Armstead to the curb. We don’t miss him when he’s out anyway. Kelemete could really excell if he was put at one position and every snap. Kick someone over to LT and call it a day.
I think a WR or at the very least a good TE is more important than people think.
Teams are going to work all offseason to find a way to stop our run game. We need to be able to air it out if we have to.

02-03-2018, 08:53 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by FinSaint I'll point out myself as one of those without no shame and with no crow on my plate. Jenkins is not the same player now, or during his time in Philly, that the Saints let walk back in the day. Jenkins has said himself that the Saints not re-signing him was a wake-up call, which made him evaluate and improve his gameplay to the level its been with the Eagles. I have zero doubt that the Saints' defensive coaching staff as it was then and has been since for a lot of years couldn't have coached him up, if the spark to improve wouldn't have come from inside the player. Re-signing him could've sent a message that the Saints were satisfied with his level of play, and he would've remained pretty much the same player. No way should the Saints have given him what the Eagles gave him (=overpaid from the Saints' standpoint). Hind-sight is great, but it doesn't change the facts that were true at that moment in time the decision to let him walk was made. That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players... Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll... He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...

02-03-2018, 11:03 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by jeanpierre That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players... Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll... He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach... I can't imagine Payton telling Bush to purposely miss huge holes and bounce every run outside though. He probably just said Carroll because of how much success he had in college, which didn't fully take effect in the pro's.

01-31-2018, 11:04 PM	#4
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Rafael Bush is a walking first down

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Rafael Bush is a walking first down I think you mean PJ Williams. I pray he gets his pink slip.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? The thing about Jenkins is that he was not as good as he is now. He has openly stated that when the Saints let him walk, it really opened his eyes and made him work at his craft a lot harder. Bottom line, he got too comfortable as a starter for us and it showed often in his play. ScottF, saintsfan1976, jeanpierre and 2 others like this.

02-01-2018, 12:53 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by dizzle88 The thing about Jenkins is that he was not as good as he is now. He has openly stated that when the Saints let him walk, it really opened his eyes and made him work at his craft a lot harder. Bottom line, he got too comfortable as a starter for us and it showed often in his play. Maybe he finally got some good coaching. I know our position coaches sucked before we fired them and got fresh faces in the building.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead.

02-01-2018, 04:52 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead. Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years... I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone...

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years... I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone... I’m all over the idea of kicking Armstead to the curb. We don’t miss him when he’s out anyway. Kelemete could really excell if he was put at one position and every snap. Kick someone over to LT and call it a day. I think a WR or at the very least a good TE is more important than people think. Teams are going to work all offseason to find a way to stop our run game. We need to be able to air it out if we have to. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.
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