2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign?

saintsfan1976 · 02-01-2018, 08:56 AM

Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead.

Rugby Saint II · 02-01-2018, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The thing about Jenkins is that he was not as good as he is now. He has openly stated that when the Saints let him walk, it really opened his eyes and made him work at his craft a lot harder.

Bottom line, he got too comfortable as a starter for us and it showed often in his play.

Maybe he finally got some good coaching. I know our position coaches sucked before we fired them and got fresh faces in the building.

voodooido · 02-01-2018, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Rafael Bush is a walking first down

I think you mean PJ Williams. I pray he gets his pink slip.

jeanpierre · 02-01-2018, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Terrelle Pryor, anyone? Upgrade over Coleman and Snead.

Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years...

I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone...

jeanpierre · 02-02-2018, 09:06 PM

FinSaint · 02-03-2018, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I remember when some Saints fan here said Malcolm Jenkins would get "overpaid" Look at em now.

I'll point out myself as one of those without no shame and with no crow on my plate.

Jenkins is not the same player now, or during his time in Philly, that the Saints let walk back in the day.

Jenkins has said himself that the Saints not re-signing him was a wake-up call, which made him evaluate and improve his gameplay to the level its been with the Eagles. I have zero doubt that the Saints' defensive coaching staff as it was then and has been since for a lot of years couldn't have coached him up, if the spark to improve wouldn't have come from inside the player. Re-signing him could've sent a message that the Saints were satisfied with his level of play, and he would've remained pretty much the same player.

No way should the Saints have given him what the Eagles gave him (=overpaid from the Saints' standpoint).

Hind-sight is great, but it doesn't change the facts that were true at that moment in time the decision to let him walk was made.

jeanpierre · 02-03-2018, 09:45 AM

Would absolutely love to sign this guy away from the Panthers; kick either Peat or Ramczyk to Left Tackle, then get our second rounder back by trading Mr. Glass...

jeanpierre · 02-03-2018, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'll point out myself as one of those without no shame and with no crow on my plate.

Jenkins is not the same player now, or during his time in Philly, that the Saints let walk back in the day.

Jenkins has said himself that the Saints not re-signing him was a wake-up call, which made him evaluate and improve his gameplay to the level its been with the Eagles. I have zero doubt that the Saints' defensive coaching staff as it was then and has been since for a lot of years couldn't have coached him up, if the spark to improve wouldn't have come from inside the player. Re-signing him could've sent a message that the Saints were satisfied with his level of play, and he would've remained pretty much the same player.

No way should the Saints have given him what the Eagles gave him (=overpaid from the Saints' standpoint).

Hind-sight is great, but it doesn't change the facts that were true at that moment in time the decision to let him walk was made.

That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players...

Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll...

He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...

dizzle88 · 02-03-2018, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players...

Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll...

He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...

I can't imagine Payton telling Bush to purposely miss huge holes and bounce every run outside though.

He probably just said Carroll because of how much success he had in college, which didn't fully take effect in the pro's.

The Dude · 02-03-2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years...

I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone...

I’m all over the idea of kicking Armstead to the curb. We don’t miss him when he’s out anyway. Kelemete could really excell if he was put at one position and every snap. Kick someone over to LT and call it a day.
I think a WR or at the very least a good TE is more important than people think.
Teams are going to work all offseason to find a way to stop our run game. We need to be able to air it out if we have to.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Rafael Bush is a walking first down I think you mean PJ Williams. I pray he gets his pink slip.
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02-03-2018, 09:53 AM	#58
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by FinSaint I'll point out myself as one of those without no shame and with no crow on my plate. Jenkins is not the same player now, or during his time in Philly, that the Saints let walk back in the day. Jenkins has said himself that the Saints not re-signing him was a wake-up call, which made him evaluate and improve his gameplay to the level its been with the Eagles. I have zero doubt that the Saints' defensive coaching staff as it was then and has been since for a lot of years couldn't have coached him up, if the spark to improve wouldn't have come from inside the player. Re-signing him could've sent a message that the Saints were satisfied with his level of play, and he would've remained pretty much the same player. No way should the Saints have given him what the Eagles gave him (=overpaid from the Saints' standpoint). Hind-sight is great, but it doesn't change the facts that were true at that moment in time the decision to let him walk was made. That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players... Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll... He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach...

02-03-2018, 12:03 PM	#59
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by jeanpierre That right there is troubling; it makes me wonder if we've been able to get the best out of our players... Reggie Bush recently interviewed and was asked who was the best coach he ever had and without hesitation his response was Pete Carroll... He acknowledged right after that response that Payton was the best coordinator he'd been around, but not the best coach... I can't imagine Payton telling Bush to purposely miss huge holes and bounce every run outside though. He probably just said Carroll because of how much success he had in college, which didn't fully take effect in the pro's.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: 2018 Saints FA - Who do we sign? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Only FA WR of interest would be Jarvis Landry, and with the first two years heavy as we'll need to re-sign Michael Thomas in two years... I don't believe WR is as important as having another LB, DT, and OG; I'd say a big TE or WR for third downs and redzone... I’m all over the idea of kicking Armstead to the curb. We don’t miss him when he’s out anyway. Kelemete could really excell if he was put at one position and every snap. Kick someone over to LT and call it a day. I think a WR or at the very least a good TE is more important than people think. Teams are going to work all offseason to find a way to stop our run game. We need to be able to air it out if we have to. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.
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