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Vrillon82 01-27-2018 12:05 AM

Re: Vince McMahon bringing back the XFL?
 
I like it for the fact the scouting and drafting is so piss poor that you can find another professional league to actually scout and they will be playing.

Anyone remember the USFL or WLAF? Many players that became impact players in the NFL, it seemed the USFL showcased more of that than any other league though with what came out of there. This will be a good time to see more QBs in action as the NFL is about to dry up on elite Qbs.

CheramieIII 01-27-2018 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 790751)
Well, good timing at least.

Lose the gimmicks, make it more like pure football and it might work

I agree with Danno. Great timing! Every little stab at the NFL only takes away from the already declining fan base. Goodell is stupid and his advertisers will pay for that stupidity.

vpheughan 01-29-2018 10:53 AM

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I heard instead of a coin toss there will be a caged "Death Match" between the opposing coaches. Winner takes all. Saving a fortune in player salaries!!!

Wasn't the "Meat" of the USFL suit the fact that the NFL was a monopoly? The court agreed they were indeed a monopoly as they were the only professional football league playing in the Fall. The USFL should have played head to head with the NFL THEN filed their suit.

exiled 01-29-2018 11:13 AM

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i 'member when the AFL was the upstart. - but they had different Texans and Titans.

burningmetal 01-29-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 790969)
I heard instead of a coin toss there will be a caged "Death Match" between the opposing coaches. Winner takes all. Saving a fortune in player salaries!!!

Wasn't the "Meat" of the USFL suit the fact that the NFL was a monopoly? The court agreed they were indeed a monopoly as they were the only professional football league playing in the Fall. The USFL should have played head to head with the NFL THEN filed their suit.

Yes, the monopoly WAS the main issue for the suit. They planned to go head to head with the NFL schedule but, among other things, the biggest issue was trying to secure TV rights for their games. For the USFL to try to go head to head with the NFL in the Fall and THEN go ahead with the lawsuit, as you suggested, would not have been an option, in my opinion. They needed to show that the NFL was conspiring with, or, "pressuring" the networks to avoid the USFL, in order to have a chance to compete for said network rights.

It seemed pretty obvious there was a great deal of chicanery going on with the NFL, but the jury (who admitted that the NFL had acted unlawfully, thus their verdict against the NFL) claimed that too much of the evidence was circumstantial, and they complained that they were tired and wanted to go home, so they "compromised" on the 1 dollar settlement, which was tripled to 3 dollars under antitrust law.

They (the jury) also claimed that they thought their low settlement number was going to be a signal to the judge to go ahead and decide the actual damage cost. That isn't how it works, and I don't buy that excuse by those jurors. I believe members of that jury were bought off by the NFL. Of course, that is only speculation on my part, but it is clear that something ridiculous happened with that jury for them to bungle it up as they did.

There is no question that some of the owners in that league were horribly mismanaging their money, which led to the successful owners having to find a way to put pressure on the NFL and perhaps force a merger with some of the teams. But if the USFL had gotten the money they SHOULD have in that suit, it would have given them an excellent opportunity to establish themselves, or at least merge a few franchises. The NFL owners clearly didn't want this competition coming into their markets, and Pete Rozelle (for as much as people act like he was a saint) seemed willing to do whatever it took to block the USFL.

darksoul35 01-29-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 790969)
I heard instead of a coin toss there will be a caged "Death Match" between the opposing coaches. Winner takes all. Saving a fortune in player salaries!!!

Wasn't the "Meat" of the USFL suit the fact that the NFL was a monopoly? The court agreed they were indeed a monopoly as they were the only professional football league playing in the Fall. The USFL should have played head to head with the NFL THEN filed their suit.

In that case I hope they hire Roger and Deontay Wilder and throw Roger in a cage with him and watch him get beat til his last gasping breath.

Danno 01-29-2018 07:02 PM

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I will watch it with all my heart.


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