With contract year looming, Mark Ingram says his best years are still in front of him

01-28-2018, 09:51 PM

The Dude · 01-28-2018, 09:57 PM

Sign him.
His ability and willingness to work along with Kamara in the backfield alone is worth it. You can tell those guys love playing together and each embrace their role. It’s going to be hard to find another back that’s willing to split carries like that and enjoy doing so.

ChrisXVI · 01-28-2018, 10:05 PM

This is really hard to believe, but Ingram only needs 734 yards to surpass Deuce and become the Saints all-time leader in rushing yards.

jeanpierre · 01-28-2018, 11:09 PM

It'll be a numbers game, but I wouldn't offer him any more than league average of a Top 20 RB, he's not even our best RB...

Kamara now gives the Saints the leverage they need to get Ingram at a bargain rate, allowing the team to address other needs...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-29-2018, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It'll be a numbers game, but I wouldn't offer him any more than league average of a Top 20 RB, he's not even our best RB...

Kamara now gives the Saints the leverage they need to get Ingram at a bargain rate, allowing the team to address other needs...

If Ingram is smart he won't bite. His next contract is likely his last big contract. No matter what ties he has with the Saints, he has to cash out.

It's interesting how most folks here wants players to take the hometown discount for the benefit of the team and to the detriment to their own financial future. Football careers, espeically running backs, are simply too short to be sentimental.

SFIAH

jeanpierre · 01-29-2018, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

If Ingram is smart he won't bite. His next contract is likely his last big contract. No matter what ties he has with the Saints, he has to cash out.

It's interesting how most folks here wants players to take the hometown discount for the benefit of the team and to the detriment to their own financial future. Football careers, espeically running backs, are simply too short to be sentimental.

SFIAH

Well, in all fairness to the team and fans, Ingram was spotted a R1 contract the first four years before he finally produce...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-29-2018, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, in all fairness to the team and fans, Ingram was spotted a R1 contract the first four years before he finally produce...

That's irrelevant. He had a R1 contract because he was picked R1. He had an R1 grade at the time with reports showing a pick in the 15-20 range as being appropriate. Ingram's next contract is based on recent production.

All I'm saying is that trying to retain Ingram at a bargain bin price will backfire. The league knows he's a top 5 back. So if the Saints want him, they'll have to pay him accordingly.

SFIAH

ScottF · 01-29-2018, 10:12 AM

He will be 29 when this contract is up, and the decline of RB's that age is well-documented.
The plus side is that since he has never been a feature back he doesn't have as much wear-and-tear as others his age.
Right now he is a bargain: https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/

As always, the market will dictate his price. At $5 to $6 million I'd keep him

vpheughan · 01-29-2018, 11:13 AM

How many years as a a Pro did it take Brees "To Produce"?

ScottF · 01-29-2018, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

How many years as a a Pro did it take Brees "To Produce"?

apples and oranges: HOF QB vs late blooming RB

The league's oldest running backs were Sproles and Gore at 34
There were 6 starting quarterbacks older than 35

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: With contract year looming, Mark Ingram says his best years are still in front of him It'll be a numbers game, but I wouldn't offer him any more than league average of a Top 20 RB, he's not even our best RB... Kamara now gives the Saints the leverage they need to get Ingram at a bargain rate, allowing the team to address other needs...

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: With contract year looming, Mark Ingram says his best years are still in front of him Originally Posted by jeanpierre It'll be a numbers game, but I wouldn't offer him any more than league average of a Top 20 RB, he's not even our best RB... Kamara now gives the Saints the leverage they need to get Ingram at a bargain rate, allowing the team to address other needs... If Ingram is smart he won't bite. His next contract is likely his last big contract. No matter what ties he has with the Saints, he has to cash out. It's interesting how most folks here wants players to take the hometown discount for the benefit of the team and to the detriment to their own financial future. Football careers, espeically running backs, are simply too short to be sentimental. SFIAH K Major likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: With contract year looming, Mark Ingram says his best years are still in front of him Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL If Ingram is smart he won't bite. His next contract is likely his last big contract. No matter what ties he has with the Saints, he has to cash out. It's interesting how most folks here wants players to take the hometown discount for the benefit of the team and to the detriment to their own financial future. Football careers, espeically running backs, are simply too short to be sentimental. SFIAH Well, in all fairness to the team and fans, Ingram was spotted a R1 contract the first four years before he finally produce...

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: With contract year looming, Mark Ingram says his best years are still in front of him Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, in all fairness to the team and fans, Ingram was spotted a R1 contract the first four years before he finally produce... That's irrelevant. He had a R1 contract because he was picked R1. He had an R1 grade at the time with reports showing a pick in the 15-20 range as being appropriate. Ingram's next contract is based on recent production. All I'm saying is that trying to retain Ingram at a bargain bin price will backfire. The league knows he's a top 5 back. So if the Saints want him, they'll have to pay him accordingly. SFIAH

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: With contract year looming, Mark Ingram says his best years are still in front of him He will be 29 when this contract is up, and the decline of RB's that age is well-documented. The plus side is that since he has never been a feature back he doesn't have as much wear-and-tear as others his age. Right now he is a bargain: https://overthecap.com/position/running-back/ As always, the market will dictate his price. At $5 to $6 million I'd keep him darksoul35 likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: With contract year looming, Mark Ingram says his best years are still in front of him Originally Posted by vpheughan How many years as a a Pro did it take Brees "To Produce"? apples and oranges: HOF QB vs late blooming RB The league's oldest running backs were Sproles and Gore at 34 There were 6 starting quarterbacks older than 35 jeanpierre likes this.

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