Saints have big decisions at TE

SmashMouth · 02-06-2018, 07:24 AM

One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-06-2018, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait.

His contract is rightside up for the Saints now. $8 million cap hit if he plays for the Saints in 2018 vs $4.8 million dead cap if released. Likely thius offseason he'll be requested to take a pay cut and be released if he refuses.

SFIAH

K Major · 02-06-2018, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait.

I can't see this happening. "Fleecer" is a goner in 2018.

ChrisXVI · 02-06-2018, 08:53 AM

Just for reference here’s the financial ramifications of moving on from Fleener this year.

PRE-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

PRE-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

POST-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

POST-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

It looks like he’s an ideal candidate for a post-6/1 designation, but that doesn’t really help us in free agency this year.

ScottF · 02-06-2018, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Just for reference here’s the financial ramifications of moving on from Fleener this year.

PRE-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

PRE-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000
2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000

POST-6/1 RELEASE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

POST-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000
2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000

It looks like he’s an ideal candidate for a post-6/1 designation, but that doesn’t really help us in free agency this year.

It does if we make a hand shake deal with Brees and then make it official on June 2

ChrisXVI · 02-06-2018, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

It does if we make a hand shake deal with Brees and then make it official on June 2

I could be wrong, but I think if Brees doesn’t have a new contract by 3/14 we get hit with $18 million in dead cap.

02-06-2018, 07:24 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints have big decisions at TE One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait.

02-06-2018, 08:02 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Saints have big decisions at TE Originally Posted by SmashMouth One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait. His contract is rightside up for the Saints now. $8 million cap hit if he plays for the Saints in 2018 vs $4.8 million dead cap if released. Likely thius offseason he'll be requested to take a pay cut and be released if he refuses. SFIAH

02-06-2018, 08:37 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints have big decisions at TE Originally Posted by SmashMouth One more year for Fleecer, then cut bait. I can't see this happening. "Fleecer" is a goner in 2018.

02-06-2018, 08:53 AM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints have big decisions at TE Just for reference here’s the financial ramifications of moving on from Fleener this year. PRE-6/1 RELEASE 2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000 2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000 PRE-6/1 TRADE 2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000 2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000 POST-6/1 RELEASE 2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000 2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000 2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000 POST-6/1 TRADE 2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000 2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000 2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000 It looks like he’s an ideal candidate for a post-6/1 designation, but that doesn’t really help us in free agency this year.
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02-06-2018, 09:23 AM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints have big decisions at TE Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Just for reference here’s the financial ramifications of moving on from Fleener this year. PRE-6/1 RELEASE 2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000 2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000 PRE-6/1 TRADE 2018 Dead Cap: $4,800,000 2018 Cap Savings: $3,200,000 POST-6/1 RELEASE 2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000 2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000 2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000 POST-6/1 TRADE 2018 Dead Cap: $1,600,000 2019 Dead Cap: $3,200,000 2018 Cap Savings: $6,400,000 It looks like he’s an ideal candidate for a post-6/1 designation, but that doesn’t really help us in free agency this year. It does if we make a hand shake deal with Brees and then make it official on June 2

02-06-2018, 09:28 AM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints have big decisions at TE Originally Posted by ScottF It does if we make a hand shake deal with Brees and then make it official on June 2 I could be wrong, but I think if Brees doesn’t have a new contract by 3/14 we get hit with $18 million in dead cap. ScottF and saintsfan1976 like this.

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