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voodooido 02-09-2018 12:23 AM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 791888)
Why?

Kenny will make one or two tackles at the line while in the box, most will spin it as a "good game". Then many will forget the 3-4 passes he gives up or the pass int in the same game. PFF rates him as CB because he plays so much slot & ranked as low as #116th. He's been a bad safety in zone.

As you state, you would like him to play LB/SS hybrid and this has been his only area that he excels (close to the line). Do you think the Saints will really want to pay TOP DOLLAR to do just that?

IMO, that money should be spent else where.
If he wants top dollar let him walk. He’s good, not great. When he is playing up near the line it makes me remember his rookie year. Being the #3 safety on the field released some of the pressure I’m sure. Would love to see him back in that role.

nola_swammi 02-09-2018 05:28 AM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
I remember when people was ready to give up on Crawley after his rookie year. Why give up on P.J.after his 1st full season? I truly believe his skill levels are the same as Malcolm but with more recovery speed.

Breaux, can you actually blame him for being injured? Remember Oschner doctors couldn't even diagnose a broken leg. To reach in the piggy bank for Malcolm will be a huge mistake, if anything go after Eric Reid or Navorro Bowman

K Major 02-09-2018 08:28 AM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
Maybe Arthur Maulet steps up this season.

saintsfan1976 02-09-2018 01:19 PM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 791887)
'76, What would you upgrade? Bell? Not a bad group of starters as they are now...

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 24 - Sterling Moore (Free Agent)

SS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo, 34 - Justin Hardee

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 25 - Rafael Bush (Free Agent)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet
We run a lot of 3 safety. I see two young starters and one is inconsistent.

PJ is very average in the slot and certainty not a guy I trust on the outside.

Remember what our secondary looked like when Lattimore went down?

nola_swammi 02-09-2018 01:26 PM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 791910)
Maybe Arthur Maulet steps up this season.
Maybe Justin Hardee step up. Paying Malcolm big money will most definitely limit those two opportunity getting on the field. Remember, after a exceptional OTA, Crawley opportunities only came after Breaux injury, Harris ineffective, Moore being cut, and 2 horrific loses.

K Major 02-09-2018 02:34 PM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 791934)
Maybe Justin Hardee step up.
I hope the Saints continue to develop Hardee.

Rugby Saint II 02-09-2018 02:38 PM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
We need a slot corner. KV is not the answer there. He is limited in what he can do and I don't want to pay him starter money when his value is less than that to me.

jeanpierre 02-09-2018 06:12 PM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
His big flaw is that he doesn't tackle well with others...

jeanpierre 02-12-2018 05:21 AM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
The more I research cornerbacks in Free Agency, the more I keep coming across Jaguars CB Aaron Colvin as solution to our slot cornerback...

jeanpierre 02-12-2018 07:48 AM
Re: Saints position outlook: While New Orleans' secondary is strong, it could get even better
 
I see no Strong Safeties available in Free Agency this season that'll be worth the money...

It'll fall to Kenny V deciding to stay with a home-town discount or rolling with Vonn Bell and a draft selection...


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