Saints tight end outlook: A long way from Jimmy Graham's heyday, what's next at TE spot?

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2018, 01:11 PM

Need a TE who can open the seam in Sean’s offense. Fleener failed. Time to move on.

triman · 02-09-2018, 01:58 PM

Lack of production from the TE was a big factor in our 3rd down conversions or lack thereof .
I think we need a total retool at TE!

The Dude · 02-11-2018, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by triman

Lack of production from the TE was a big factor in our 3rd down conversions or lack thereof .
I think we need a total retool at TE!

I agree with this. Also the reason we struggled in the red zone early on until Payton found the run game. We play some good defenses next year and we need the option of going to a reliable TE.
Our blocking is fine.

Rugby Saint II · 02-09-2018, 02:43 PM

We have blocking tight ends already with Hill and Houman. We need a true receiving tight end who can block and catch the ball. The seam used to be our go to route but we don't have a tight end who can get to the seam and settle in. Draft one if possible......please!

saintsfan1976 · 02-09-2018, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We have blocking tight ends already with Hill and Houman. We need a true receiving tight end who can block and catch the ball. The seam used to be our go to route but we don't have a tight end who can get to the seam and settle in. Draft one if possible......please!

Agreed. A total retool is not needed. Just an upgrade over Fleener.

And for Pete’s sake will we ever draft our LB of the future??

FinSaint · 02-10-2018, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And for Pete’s sake will we ever draft our LB of the future??

They already did with AA.

saintsfan1976 · 02-10-2018, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

They already did with AA.

How’d that work out?

AA is an outside guy. I’m asking for a true Jon Vilma type MLB

jeanpierre · 02-10-2018, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

How’d that work out?

AA is an outside guy. I’m asking for a true Jon Vilma type MLB

Vilma? Was never impressed with him; an upgrade, yes, but not impressed with what we got in trade...

Thought that Fujita and Shanle did more and got less credit, more criticism than they deserved...

Totally agree we need that QB in the middle of the defense; and if we're using a first round pick, I want a Luke Kuechly-type...

K Major · 02-10-2018, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

They already did with AA.

He has a ton of work to do. Alex hasn't made it through a full season of football since he was in high school. He also had a season ending every year since he became a starter at Florida ... same thing happened as a Saint in his rookie year.

We can't afford to go through another season being limited at the position. I hope he gets it together (stay healthy) but I don't see him as the answer.

jeanpierre · 02-10-2018, 07:42 AM

Getting back to TE Dallas Goedert; most pre-draft rankings have him in the 40-60 range, and we have no picks there...

Unless...

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints tight end outlook: A long way from Jimmy Graham's heyday, what's next at TE spot? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We have blocking tight ends already with Hill and Houman. We need a true receiving tight end who can block and catch the ball. The seam used to be our go to route but we don't have a tight end who can get to the seam and settle in. Draft one if possible......please! Agreed. A total retool is not needed. Just an upgrade over Fleener. And for Pete’s sake will we ever draft our LB of the future??

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Saints tight end outlook: A long way from Jimmy Graham's heyday, what's next at TE spot? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And for Pete’s sake will we ever draft our LB of the future?? They already did with AA.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints tight end outlook: A long way from Jimmy Graham's heyday, what's next at TE spot? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 How’d that work out? AA is an outside guy. I’m asking for a true Jon Vilma type MLB Vilma? Was never impressed with him; an upgrade, yes, but not impressed with what we got in trade... Thought that Fujita and Shanle did more and got less credit, more criticism than they deserved... Totally agree we need that QB in the middle of the defense; and if we're using a first round pick, I want a Luke Kuechly-type...

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints tight end outlook: A long way from Jimmy Graham's heyday, what's next at TE spot? Originally Posted by FinSaint They already did with AA. He has a ton of work to do. Alex hasn't made it through a full season of football since he was in high school. He also had a season ending every year since he became a starter at Florida ... same thing happened as a Saint in his rookie year. We can't afford to go through another season being limited at the position. I hope he gets it together (stay healthy) but I don't see him as the answer.

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