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jeanpierre 02-12-2018 11:24 AM

Saints position outlook: Michael Thomas has become one of the best receivers in the league, but New Orleans might look for other upgrades
 

jeanpierre 02-12-2018 11:36 AM

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ScottF 02-12-2018 12:15 PM

Re: Saints position outlook: Michael Thomas has become one of the best receivers in the league, but New Orleans might look for other upgrades
 
not a heck of a lot out there after Landry.
Lee is intriguing, but like the rest fits in the injured-or-head case category

WalterFootball.com: 2018 NFL Free Agents - Wide Receivers

K Major 02-12-2018 12:27 PM

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Allen Robinson - WR

Tons of talent and only 25.

Beastmode 02-12-2018 12:48 PM

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Roll the dice on Cameron Meridith. Maybe Garcon. Other than that agree, not much out there. We still have to Sign Coleman so thinking we don't sign any FA. We still have that WR we plucked from the Pats.

jeanpierre 02-12-2018 01:57 PM

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If we're gonna spend money at WR in Free Agency, Jarvis Landry and maybe Allen Robinson are the only guys I'd spend cap room on...

jnormand 02-12-2018 02:20 PM

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I really wonder if Carr can contribute.

jeanpierre 02-12-2018 07:35 PM

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saintsfan1976 02-12-2018 07:39 PM

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As the article points out - an upgrade at WR or TE would be enough.

jeanpierre 02-12-2018 11:20 PM

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saintsfan1976 02-13-2018 03:55 AM

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Why not? Joe Morgan had multiple chances.

ChrisXVI 02-13-2018 08:47 AM

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WR Trey Quinn, SMU
Height: 6-0 Weight: 202 lbs

Some of the best hands in the draft with plus-route running and good toughness in traffic. May still be on the board in the 4th round.

jeanpierre 02-13-2018 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 792155)
Why not? Joe Morgan had multiple chances.

Great Point - Conversely though, Saints may be wary of going down that road again, though I believe Snead has a better handle on his situation...

Boy, would have many people forgotten Snead's bad season had he completed that screen option pass to Kamara vs the Vikes - could you imagine?

jeanpierre 02-13-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 792165)
WR Trey Quinn, SMU
Height: 6-0 Weight: 202 lbs

Some of the best hands in the draft with plus-route running and good toughness in traffic. May still be on the board in the 4th round.

That seems to be the early consensus on where he'll be taken - and I wouldn't have a problem with it...

Though I think the priority will be a taller target with a big catch radius for those third down conversion attempts and red zone scoring tries...

I'd love to see us get TE Dallas Goedert and WR Trey Quinn - but I know we've really got to get better in our front seven and some OL depth...

jeanpierre 02-13-2018 02:54 PM

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jeanpierre 02-15-2018 08:18 AM

Re: Saints position outlook: Michael Thomas has become one of the best receivers in the league, but New Orleans might look for other upgrades
 
So far, the consensus I'm reading from y'all is y'all like to see either Jarvis Landry or Allen Robinson with no faith in Willie Snead to recover as a slot receiver?

jeanpierre 02-15-2018 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 792132)
As the article points out - an upgrade at WR or TE would be enough.

Yep a big-bodied, sure-handed third down/red zone reliable target to take some heat off of @CantGuardMike...

SmashMouth 02-15-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 792296)
So far, the consensus I'm reading from y'all is y'all like to see either Jarvis Landry or Allen Robinson with no faith in Willie Snead to recover as a slot receiver?

Keep Slick Willie, but look for more talent. Landry is too much $, more than likely.

Rugby Saint II 02-15-2018 11:07 AM

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TE in the draft.......which ever one ya'll want is fine with me.

SmashMouth 02-15-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 792310)
TE in the draft.......which ever one ya'll want is fine with me.

Mr. nine fingers from Whiskey U or that dude from the Dakotas ... either one.

K Major 02-15-2018 12:09 PM

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I don't think the Saints FO will entertain Landry's demands ($$), but I really thought he would be become the more polished NFL WR coming out of LSU ... even more so than Odell (DIVA but elite).

Hindsight is 20/20 but damn Allen Robinson and Landry were still on the board yet we chose Stanley Baptiste :rolleyes:. Outside of Cooks, that was just an awful Saints draft, just awful.

I'm so thankful now for Jeff Ireland as Scout director.

jeanpierre 02-16-2018 04:52 AM

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In case this got lost in everything, I'd remind everyone...


SmashMouth 02-16-2018 10:52 AM

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Jarvis Landry's 5 best non-Dolphins fits in NFL free agency | NFL | Sporting News

Upvote for the Saints option?

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jeanpierre 02-17-2018 03:39 PM

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ChrisXVI 02-17-2018 04:01 PM

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We don’t really sign big name WR’s. In fact, Ted Ginn is the only one I can think of in the last 10 years. We like either drafting or taking unknowns and molding them into our system.

jeanpierre 02-19-2018 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 792455)
We don’t really sign big name WR’s. In fact, Ted Ginn is the only one I can think of in the last 10 years. We like either drafting or taking unknowns and molding them into our system.

Great Point - I really believe we make a run at replacing Fleener with Graham, or the like, eliminating Tight End from our "Needs" come draft time...

jeanpierre 02-19-2018 08:49 AM

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Know a lot has been made of the slot, but if the Saints are truly shifting the Tight End focus to one of blocking, then I see the emphasis at Wide Receiver will be to sign another big bodied guy who can post up and win jump balls...

Knowing Payton though, I suspect Graham are some other Tight End is signed before the draft and we take a Tight End (i.e. Goedert) in the first half of the draft...

jeanpierre 02-19-2018 05:35 PM

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No opinion poll for Left or Right?

jeanpierre 02-19-2018 11:01 PM

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Beastmode 02-19-2018 11:27 PM

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Austin Carr is no joke. Kinda shocked he didn't make the field this season but we got him too late. Great hands and the dude can jump. I totally see him taking over the slot.

K Major 02-20-2018 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 792607)
Austin Carr is no joke. Kinda shocked he didn't make the field this season but we got him too late. Great hands and the dude can jump. I totally see him taking over the slot.

Remember he played in the playoff game vs Vikings ? He took over for Brandon (neck injury). I don't believe he was targeted though.

jeanpierre 02-20-2018 05:03 PM

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Look, I wasn't impressed when we signed Ted Ginn, but the guy was getting it done...


dizzle88 02-20-2018 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 792641)
Look, I wasn't impressed when we signed Ted Ginn, but the guy was getting it done...

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/966051590980464641

There's only one thing with Ginn, he disappeared for far too many games.

I mean when he had a good game, he had a really good game and made huge impact plays, but he just vanished a lot of the time.

3rd downs were a struggle obviously. Snead just fell off the face of the earth, Brandon Coleman held the ball like a diva and payed the price multiple times.

We could do with one more impact receiver to take the pressure off Kamara and Thomas so often, that could be at wide receiver or TE.

jeanpierre 02-20-2018 06:52 PM

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We're a pick your poison kinda team and there were games where teams didn't man up on him and Brees made 'em pay...

Very few games were we actually shut down on offense; in fact, I thought sometimes Sean was outsmarting himself...

But as the stat shows, when Ginn was targeted, he rewarded the team and his QB...

ChrisXVI 02-20-2018 07:24 PM

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Well there goes that dream.

jeanpierre 02-20-2018 07:53 PM

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So it looks like Jarvis Landry and Allen Robinson, for now, won't be on the Free Agent Market...

So do we look to Tight End to upgrade?

K Major 02-20-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 792654)
So it looks like Jarvis Landry and Allen Robinson, for now, won't be on the Free Agent Market...

So do we look to Tight End to upgrade?

Yes. I'm still not ruling out Jimmy Dickens. 2 year deal at the right price, yes please. He'd be a HUGE 3rd down weapon and redzone target.

K Major 02-20-2018 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 792651)

Don't rule out a possible trade. I'm sure Miami will listen to offers.

jeanpierre 02-21-2018 09:46 AM

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Sign a big, pass-catching tight end that can spread out opposite @CantGuardMike and let the other guys rebound this season (well, Ginn was fine as a flanker)...

They're some weapons that can be had with those fourth, fifth round picks as well, but I'd prefer to develop offensive, defensive line depth...

Rugby Saint II 02-22-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 792578)
No opinion poll for Left or Right?


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