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Originally Posted by Garry42 (Post 802670)

Even if he is successful in the CFL, I don't see him getting back to the NFL. The game in the CFL is very different (rules greatly favor the offense), but more importantly, the level of competition he will play against in Canada is not even close to what he would see in the NFL. The number of success stories in this category is very small and I don't see Manziel anywhere close to being exceptional. Good luck to him though....his presence will definitely help the CFL get exposure south of the border.

I'll probably catch a few more CFL games because he is there. Maybe looking for a train wreck. I used to be a HUGE CFL fan back in the day. I was Admiral of the Pirate Armada, the fan club for the Shreveport Pirates CFL team back in the '90's. Pretty cool getting to rub shoulders with the head coach and Hall of Famer, Forrest Gregg. And Billy Joe Tolliver (ex-Saints great ;) ) was the starting QB one year. But the coolest of them all was the place kicker, Bjorn Nittmo. He came to every one of our meetings. He kicked for the NY Giants and appeared on the David Letterman show multiple times because Letterman love saying his name ... Nittmo.

:D

There are two hitches to the treatment of bipolar disorder...

First - The struggle is keeping them on their medication. If treated correctly the medication works so well that the person starts to believe that they no longer need the medication and quite often just stops taking it, which leads to an ugly relapse.

Secondly - Besides what ever medication they are put on to correct the chemical imbalance that causes the disorder, they are also put on anti-psychotic mood stabilizers. Mood stabilizers take the peaks and valleys away. Manziel is a gunslinger and played the way he did because he was on a high, the mood stabilizers would prevent that euphoric high...

I have lived and dealt with some that suffers from bipolar disorder first hand. When the doctor was asked "when will my parent be normal again"? The reply was "we do not know what her normal is yet"...

Medicated Manziel will not play like manic Manziel.

If Maziel's FB career was a haircut:

https://i.redd.it/mv4h5cpm7sx01.jpg

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 802672)

I agree with number 1 completely. I think givin the fact that he will be surrounded by team doctors means he will be monitored daily and it would become part of his daily regiment.
As for number 2 I don’t think his play was ever erratic or inconsistent, just his behavior. This tells me he has the skills to play at a high level medicated or not.
He’s wasnt going out there winning on pure emotion or instinct. He has smarts , a good understanding of the game, and other skill sets so I think he would be just fine. It would be different if he had moments when he were stellar and others that were awesful but I don’t think he had that problem.
Either way his problem was behavior while a symptom of bipolar needed to be addressed with or without medication. While medicine may help in that regard he’s still going to have to change his behavior.

Football or not, I just hope he gets his life together and becomes a productive citizen.

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 802699)

I didnt say anything about his play being erratic and or inconsistent. Because his high-highs will be knocked down the euphoric feeling of being 'in the zone' wont be the same.

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 802727)

I didnt say anything about his play being erratic and or inconsistent. Because his high-highs will be knocked down the euphoric feeling of being 'in the zone' wont be the same.

If he’s properly medicated he should get his natural “high highs” and lows just like most people based on the environment and stimuli around him as opposed to frequent ups and downs for little to no apparent reason.
I’m not 100% convinced the bipolar thing isn’t a rouse by his agent made to try and make an excuse for his behavior. There are plenty of bipolar people who don’t have behavior problems. When they do it’s usually a result of self medicating with alcohol or drugs.
Then again he could simply be a spoiled douche bag.
In any case I hope he does what he has to do to get his **** together because he could be great if he would. It would be nice to get him cheap on a 1-2 year deal with later options. I’d take a chance. If he continues to be an ass no harm done, we won’t need him for another couple years anyway.

What's the fascination with Johnny? He's not that guy to command a huddle in the NFL & with a questionable work ethic.

Best of luck up in Canada though.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 802754)

What's the fascination with Johnny? He's not that guy to command a huddle in the NFL & with a questionable work ethic.

Best of luck up in Canada though.

They were talking today on Moving the Chains on NFL radio about the fact that Manziel could very likely end up as a backup with Hamilton. It is a whole different game with different rules and it may take a year or so just to start to feel comfortable enough to start a game. But we'll see, I guess.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 802758)

and he hasn't taken a live snap in two years