Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency

triman · 02-26-2018, 09:46 AM

The question becomes who do we replace him with. My money would be on LaMarcus Joyner or Malcolm Burnett

dizzle88 · 02-26-2018, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints can't run their roster scared.

KV was the 115th rated cb last season (this is where he played the majority of his snaps). As Chris stated, he's been consistently bad in 2 deep. Good against the run but a major liability against pass in man or zone.

I think the better comparison would be letting Roman Harper walk.

I completely agree and KV has not finished a season since we drafted him, far too hot and cold.

MatthewT · 02-26-2018, 09:52 AM

I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support. Until the Saints find better outside linebackers, that 3 safety formation will be necessary. The 3 safety formation with KV acting as a LB is exactly where he does his best work.

jnormand · 02-26-2018, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support. Until the Saints find better outside linebackers, that 3 safety formation will be necessary. The 3 safety formation with KV acting as a LB is exactly where he does his best work.

Exactly!!

K Major · 02-26-2018, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support.

I just can't see the Saints FO paying him top dollar to do just that.

saintfan · 02-26-2018, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I just can't see the Saints FO paying him top dollar to do just that.

Which is probably why he'll be gone. As is usually the case he's not as bad as some would represent, but he also has holes in his game, and we don't have the pieces to compensate. Onward - Upward.

ScottF · 02-26-2018, 02:43 PM

Pick a number and if he is good with it, great.
If some team is willing to overpay, there's no reason to get in a bidding war.

After missing 11 games in two years, he really shouldn't be commanding top $$

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2018, 04:43 PM

Reality is that KV in a certain, specific role is valuable. IF healthy. But that type of player still is only worth so much money. So if he’s all in on New Orleans and willing to accept his role as a one-dimensional safety in this defense then I’m happy to see him here. I just don’t think that’s the case.

halloween 65 · 02-26-2018, 07:04 PM

Can't say I'll miss him for a second.

K Major · 02-27-2018, 02:09 PM

Orlando Scandrick likely on his way out of Dallas – ProFootballTalk

The Cowboys tried to deal Scandrick to the Saints during the draft last year in return for safety Kenny Vaccaro, via Clarence Hill of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

I wasn't aware of this ^^^ ^^^.

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02-26-2018, 09:50 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Originally Posted by K Major Saints can't run their roster scared. KV was the 115th rated cb last season (this is where he played the majority of his snaps). As Chris stated, he's been consistently bad in 2 deep. Good against the run but a major liability against pass in man or zone. I think the better comparison would be letting Roman Harper walk. I completely agree and KV has not finished a season since we drafted him, far too hot and cold. K Major likes this.

02-26-2018, 09:52 AM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support. Until the Saints find better outside linebackers, that 3 safety formation will be necessary. The 3 safety formation with KV acting as a LB is exactly where he does his best work. saintfan, jnormand, Rsanders24 and 1 others like this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,735	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Originally Posted by MatthewT I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support. Until the Saints find better outside linebackers, that 3 safety formation will be necessary. The 3 safety formation with KV acting as a LB is exactly where he does his best work. Exactly!!

02-26-2018, 11:03 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Originally Posted by MatthewT I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support. I just can't see the Saints FO paying him top dollar to do just that. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Originally Posted by K Major I just can't see the Saints FO paying him top dollar to do just that. Which is probably why he'll be gone. As is usually the case he's not as bad as some would represent, but he also has holes in his game, and we don't have the pieces to compensate. Onward - Upward. MatthewT likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Pick a number and if he is good with it, great. If some team is willing to overpay, there's no reason to get in a bidding war. After missing 11 games in two years, he really shouldn't be commanding top $$ voodooido likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Reality is that KV in a certain, specific role is valuable. IF healthy. But that type of player still is only worth so much money. So if he’s all in on New Orleans and willing to accept his role as a one-dimensional safety in this defense then I’m happy to see him here. I just don’t think that’s the case. K Major likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Can't say I'll miss him for a second.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency Orlando Scandrick likely on his way out of Dallas – ProFootballTalk The Cowboys tried to deal Scandrick to the Saints during the draft last year in return for safety Kenny Vaccaro, via Clarence Hill of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. I wasn't aware of this ^^^ ^^^. ChrisXVI likes this.