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K Major 02-25-2018 09:30 PM

Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency
 
Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency
Posted by Charean Williams on February 25, 2018, 8:30 PM EST

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Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency – ProFootballTalk

Beastmode 02-25-2018 10:25 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency
 
Sad. A bust for a 1st rounder but not entirely his fault. Probably do well on a team with solid CB's.

saintsfan1976 02-26-2018 04:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 792955)
Sad. A bust for a 1st rounder but not entirely his fault. Probably do well on a team with solid CB's.

Will solid CB's keep him from holding? Or from PED suspensions?

saintfan 02-26-2018 07:51 AM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency
 
Sad to see him go, assuming we don't make an offer - a good player, but one I think we can replace.

He will do well elsewhere. Under difference circumstances I think we would resign him, but we have talent behind him that makes more $ sense.

ChrisXVI 02-26-2018 08:08 AM

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It’s the right decision. He isn’t very good. He’s consistently been terrible in zone coverage and draws too many penalties. Too undisciplined.

rezburna 02-26-2018 08:12 AM

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I’m cool with that.

dizzle88 02-26-2018 09:04 AM

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I just hope it doesn't turn into another "Malcolm Jenkins" fiasco. Becoming an all pro the year after we let him walk.

K Major 02-26-2018 09:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 792971)
I just hope it doesn't turn into another "Malcolm Jenkins" fiasco. Becoming an all pro the year after we let him walk.

Saints can't run their roster scared.

KV was the 115th rated cb last season (this is where he played the majority of his snaps). As Chris stated, he's been consistently bad in 2 deep. Good against the run but a major liability against pass in man or zone.

I think the better comparison would be letting Roman Harper walk.

triman 02-26-2018 09:46 AM

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The question becomes who do we replace him with. My money would be on LaMarcus Joyner or Malcolm Burnett

dizzle88 02-26-2018 09:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 792972)
Saints can't run their roster scared.

KV was the 115th rated cb last season (this is where he played the majority of his snaps). As Chris stated, he's been consistently bad in 2 deep. Good against the run but a major liability against pass in man or zone.

I think the better comparison would be letting Roman Harper walk.

I completely agree and KV has not finished a season since we drafted him, far too hot and cold.

MatthewT 02-26-2018 09:52 AM

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I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support. Until the Saints find better outside linebackers, that 3 safety formation will be necessary. The 3 safety formation with KV acting as a LB is exactly where he does his best work.

jnormand 02-26-2018 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 792983)
I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support. Until the Saints find better outside linebackers, that 3 safety formation will be necessary. The 3 safety formation with KV acting as a LB is exactly where he does his best work.

Exactly!!

K Major 02-26-2018 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 792983)
I am not against KV leaving, but I think if he leaves, it will create a bigger issue than we realize. Yes, he sucks on the back end/zone defense, but he is pretty darn good as a hybrid LB/SS playing around the line and covering TE's, or slower RB's, and playing run support.

I just can't see the Saints FO paying him top dollar to do just that.

saintfan 02-26-2018 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 792987)
I just can't see the Saints FO paying him top dollar to do just that.

Which is probably why he'll be gone. As is usually the case he's not as bad as some would represent, but he also has holes in his game, and we don't have the pieces to compensate. Onward - Upward.

:bng:

voodooido 02-26-2018 01:02 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 792955)
Sad. A bust for a 1st rounder but not entirely his fault. Probably do well on a team with solid CB's.

Bust???? That’s harsh. Kid played great year one and a lack of other defensive studs caused him to dip off. Injuries also hurt him. Sullivan was a bust. KV, not so much.

ScottF 02-26-2018 02:43 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency
 
Pick a number and if he is good with it, great.
If some team is willing to overpay, there's no reason to get in a bidding war.

After missing 11 games in two years, he really shouldn't be commanding top $$

Beastmode 02-26-2018 04:26 PM

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2013 draft, 15-through 25 half of those are now pro bowlers. Eric Reed, Xavier Jones, Desmond Trufant. That's three of them that went after Kenny. He was a bust when one considers we had over a 50% chance of landing a pro bowler if we pass.

I'm not questioning the pick though, it looked great on paper. We have a habit of picking players and using them in schemes that do not cater to their skillset which is what happened to Kenny. If you look at Kamara, he is doing exactly what he was doing in college and look what happened.

saintsfan1976 02-26-2018 04:43 PM

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Reality is that KV in a certain, specific role is valuable. IF healthy. But that type of player still is only worth so much money. So if he’s all in on New Orleans and willing to accept his role as a one-dimensional safety in this defense then I’m happy to see him here. I just don’t think that’s the case.

halloween 65 02-26-2018 07:04 PM

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Can't say I'll miss him for a second.

K Major 02-27-2018 02:09 PM

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Orlando Scandrick likely on his way out of Dallas – ProFootballTalk


The Cowboys tried to deal Scandrick to the Saints during the draft last year in return for safety Kenny Vaccaro, via Clarence Hill of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

I wasn't aware of this ^^^ ^^^.

Garry42 02-28-2018 09:09 AM

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I had high hopes when he was drafted, but has never lived up to expectations. My biggest issue with him has always been how undisciplined he plays. I don't see this creating a big hole in the defence at all.
If he doesn't return, I wish him all the best!

jeanpierre 02-28-2018 09:25 AM

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Here's the thing about the recent history of the strong safety position with during Payton's tenure with the Saints...

We spent a second round pick on Roman Harper, an obvious liability in coverage to other teams except the Saints coaches...

SO then we spent a first round pick on Kenny Vaccaro who tested with high benchmarks, but had to medicate to focus and play disciplined...

Now, I could believe that Ireland probably will do a better job selecting a strong safety, but I'm of the belief we'd do better signing a proven free agent...

But I thought the three-safety secondary of Williams-Bell-Bush/Banjo played well enough, and would be better with a better PASS RUSH...

mapcow 02-28-2018 09:52 AM

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'bout damn time. He single handedly was the reason for a couple losses.
:jester:

vpheughan 02-28-2018 10:14 AM

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Yeah Vaccaro and not having Luke McCown for a back up QB cost us the Super Bowl!!

K Major 03-01-2018 09:26 AM

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Kenny Vaccaro healthy, ready to enjoy free agency process – ProFootballTalk

ChrisXVI 03-01-2018 02:26 PM

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https://twitter.com/joelaerickson/st...407177728?s=21

https://twitter.com/miketriplett/sta...791297024?s=21

Edit: What the hell? Why aren’t tweets copying and pasting like they used to? Anyway, they’re basically saying that Vaccaro will not be offered a new deal and he’s moving on.

jeanpierre 03-01-2018 04:19 PM

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SmashMouth 03-01-2018 06:22 PM

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Safety Kenny Vaccaro has no plans to re-sign with Saints, source says | Saints | theadvocate.com

saintsfan1976 03-01-2018 08:33 PM

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I don’t don’t doubt KV played to the best of his ability. The problem is his ability.

K Major 03-01-2018 08:46 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro expected to leave New Orleans in free agency
 
Most of us could see this one coming a mile away. For where Kenny was drafted, he has been a very underwhelming player.

Wise move by the Saints FO to let Vacarro walk.

voodooido 03-01-2018 09:16 PM

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We have two young safeties. Bring back Bush for cheap and sign another valuable backup. Cb and defensive line is more of a need

vpheughan 03-02-2018 07:57 PM

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Till he goes to another team and becomes an ALL PRO Scene 1 take 6,285,321 YOU'RE ON EGGSPURTS "WHAT THE SAINTS SHOULD HAVE DONE............"

Papa Voodoo 03-16-2018 02:59 PM

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Does anyone else find it odd that there is no news about KV?

FinSaint 03-16-2018 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 795620)
Does anyone else find it odd that there is no news about KV?

I find it hard to believe that no teams would be interested in his services.

Bring him back on vet minimum if there's no takers... :-D

ChrisXVI 03-16-2018 03:30 PM

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Looks like we made the right decision. It’s been crickets on the Vaccaro front.

CheramieIII 03-16-2018 03:31 PM

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I feel sorry for Kenny. I thought he would've at least got a call.

nola_swammi 03-16-2018 04:46 PM

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Okafor will be our Hargrove signning
Davis will be our Vilma signning
Hopefully they sign Eric Reid to be our Sharper

dizzle88 03-16-2018 08:32 PM

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It's really strange to hear nothing about Vaccaro getting a call or making a visit.

RockyMountainSaint 03-16-2018 09:47 PM

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Free Agency period just opened yesterday.

Jeez

MatthewT 03-17-2018 07:24 AM

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Looks like the market for Vaccaro is a one year deal and try again next year. I hope he signs outside the NFC South, don't want his two best games every year to be against the Saints.


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