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jeanpierre 08-12-2018 03:03 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (4) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201),
32 - Jonathan Williams, 35 - Shane Vereen (FA 2018), 38 - Terrance West (FA 2018)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018), 33 - Trey Edmunds

WR-X (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018),
11 - Tommylee Lewis, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA)
LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 69 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 79 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford, 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC), 62 - Don Barclay (FA -2018)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (4) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018),
45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA), [COLOR=red"]84 - Michael Hoomanawanui[/COLOR]
WR-Y (3) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 17 - Michael Floyd (FA 2018)
80 - Austin Carr[/I], [I]15 - Josh Huff (RFC)
DEFENSE

RDE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, **69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

MLB (3) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC), 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

RCB (3) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 34 - Justin Hardee, 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA), 36 - Robert Nelson (Free Agent - 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 28 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018), 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 37 - Arthur Maulet, 25 – Marcus J. Williams (Free Agent - 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)


Reserve/Injured

14 - Travin Dural (RFC)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


Active Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 43; Kicking: 3; PUP: 1

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram pending suspension of first four games of the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

jeanpierre 08-12-2018 03:34 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 08-13-2018 03:50 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Believe the longer Davenport's injury prolongs itself, the better the chances of Mitchell Loewen making this roster...

ChrisXVI 08-14-2018 09:25 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Since PJ Williams is in the last year of his deal why not trade him to Miami for a late-round pick? Then we go into the season with Lattimore, Crawley, Robinson, Jamerson and Maulet with the option of Hardee if we want to keep six.

dizzle88 08-14-2018 09:34 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 808303)
https://twitter.com/OmarKelly/status...63524872597505

Since PJ Williams is in the last year of his deal why not trade him to Miami for a late-round pick? Then we go into the season with Lattimore, Crawley, Robinson, Jamerson and Maulet with the option of Hardee if we want to keep six.
Literally was going to say the same thing, send PJ to them, we have a few young guys up and coming.

K Major 08-15-2018 12:02 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 808303)
https://twitter.com/OmarKelly/status...63524872597505

Then we go into the season with Lattimore, Crawley, Robinson, Jamerson and Maulet with the option of Hardee if we want to keep six.
XVI,

With the collection of depth we have in 2018, I'm a bit interested in seeing who ends up on the practice squad :p.

jeanpierre 08-15-2018 02:14 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 808303)
https://twitter.com/OmarKelly/status...63524872597505

Since PJ Williams is in the last year of his deal why not trade him to Miami for a late-round pick? Then we go into the season with Lattimore, Crawley, Robinson, Jamerson and Maulet with the option of Hardee if we want to keep six.
We're deepest we've ever been at CB, but you know what can happen (see Okafor); I'd rather stay with the deep roster for a legit Championship Run...

Now, if they want to send over something we need, say TE Mike Gesicki, I'd send Williams and exchange like our fourth and their sixth round picks...

jeanpierre 08-15-2018 02:22 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (4) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201),
32 - Jonathan Williams, 35 - Shane Vereen (FA 2018), 38 - Terrance West (FA 2018)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018), 33 - Trey Edmunds

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 17 - Michael Floyd (FA 2018), 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford, 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC), 62 - Don Barclay (FA -2018)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (4) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill,
45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA), 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018)
WR-Y (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, **15 - Josh Huff (RFC)

WR-Z (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, ***69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

MLB (3) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC), 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

RCB (3) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 34 - Justin Hardee, 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA), 36 - Robert Nelson (Free Agent - 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 28 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018), 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 37 - Arthur Maulet, 25 – Marcus J. Williams (Free Agent - 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)


Reserve/Injured

14 - Travin Dural (RFC)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


Active Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 43; Kicking: 3; PUP: 1

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram pending suspension of first four games of the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 15 WR Josh Huff (RFC) pending suspension of first two games of the 2018 NFL Season

***Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

jeanpierre 08-18-2018 02:36 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 08-18-2018 02:37 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 808420)
XVI,

With the collection of depth we have in 2018, I'm a bit interested in seeing who ends up on the practice squad :p.
Betcha that several of our practice squad players aren't even on our roster right now as other teams will likely sign, even trade, for our cuts...

jeanpierre 08-18-2018 02:38 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (5) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201),
32 - Jonathan Williams, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 35 - Shane Vereen (FA 2018), 38 - Terrance West (FA 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)
WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA), 17 - Michael Floyd (FA 2018)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 62 - Don Barclay (FA -2018), 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill,
45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA), 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018)
WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, **15 - Josh Huff (RFC)

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, ***69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

MLB (3) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC), 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

RCB (3) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 34 - Justin Hardee, 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA), 36 - Robert Nelson (Free Agent - 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 28 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018), 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 37 - Arthur Maulet, 25 – Marcus J. Williams (Free Agent - 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)


Reserve/Injured

14 - Travin Dural (RFC)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


Active Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 43; Kicking: 3; PUP: 1

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram pending suspension of first four games of the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 15 WR Josh Huff (RFC) pending suspension of first two games of the 2018 NFL Season

***Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

jeanpierre 08-19-2018 11:19 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 08-19-2018 03:00 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Clapp's performance will determine whether we keep eight (8) or nine (9) offensive linemen...

If Clapp is awesome, we keep eight and let LeRibeus geaux; if he's solid, still showing inexperience, we keep nine...

Ranking our offensive linemen - Unger, Ramczyk, Armstead, Peat, Warford, Bushrod, Clapp, Leonard, LeRibeus...

rezburna 08-19-2018 04:09 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
George Iloka is available.

Rugby Saint II 08-19-2018 05:24 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 808795)
Clapp's performance will determine whether we keep eight (8) or nine (9) offensive linemen...

If Clapp is awesome, we keep eight and let LeRibeus geaux; if he's solid, still showing inexperience, we keep nine...

Ranking our offensive linemen - Unger, Ramczyk, Armstead, Peat, Warford, Bushrod, Clapp, Leonard, LeRibeus...
Hmmmm..........that looks like the right order and not bad depth.

jeanpierre 08-19-2018 05:26 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 808797)
George Iloka is available.
Saw that. He'd been graded in the mid-70s by PFF the past couple of years and was going into the third year of a five year/$30mil contract...

Guess the Bengals didn't feel he was worth the coin...

See us keeping four (4) safeties this year:

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell

With Natrell Jamerson has the CB/S/NB hybrid...

George is a big boy at 6' 4", but I wonder if he hasn't lost a step???

ChrisXVI 08-19-2018 07:39 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Taking a stab at a 53-man roster projection at the mid-preseason point...

Offense (24)

QB 9 Drew Brees, 7 Taysom Hill, 12 Tom Savage

HB 41 Alvin Kamara, 32 Jonathan Williams, 33 Trey Edmunds, 30 Boston Scott

FB 42 Zach Line

WR 13 Michael Thomas, 19 Ted Ginn, Jr, 81 Cameron Meredith, 10 Tre’Quan Smith, 87 Brandon Tate

TE 82 Ben Watson, 89 Josh Hill, 85 Dan Arnold

LT 72 Terron Armstead, 74 Jermon Bushrod

LG 75 Andrus Peat

C 60 Max Unger, 64 Will Clapp

RG 67 Larry Warford

RT 71 Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 Rick Leonard

Defense (26)

WDE 57 Alex Okafor, 92 Marcus Davenport

1T 95 Tyeler Davison

3T 98 Sheldon Rankins, 93 David Onyemata, 68 Devaroe Lawrence

SDE 94 Cameron Jordan, 91 Trey Hendrickson, 70 Mitchell Loewen

WLB 56 DeMario Davis, 47 Alex Anzalone

MLB 51 Manti Te’o, 52 Craig Robertson, 54 Nate Stupar

SLB 53 AJ Klein

CB 23 Marshon Lattimore, 20 Ken Crawley, 34 Justin Hardee, 27 Natrell Jamerson

NCB 21 Patrick Robinson, 37 Arthur Maulet

FS 43 Marcus Williams, 31 Chris Banjo, 39 Kamrin Moore

SS 29 Kurt Coleman, 24 Vonn Bell

rezburna 08-19-2018 07:45 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 808802)
Saw that. He'd been graded in the mid-70s by PFF the past couple of years and was going into the third year of a five year/$30mil contract...

Guess the Bengals didn't feel he was worth the coin...

See us keeping four (4) safeties this year:

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell

With Natrell Jamerson has the CB/S/NB hybrid...

George is a big boy at 6' 4", but I wonder if he hasn't lost a step???
I saw that last year he graded out with a 77.7. I’d cut Banjo and roll with Iloka. Von Bell can slide back to Free. Iloka is a better strong safety than Kurt Coleman and Von Bell in my opinion. I think Iloka is the final piece to the puzzle of a top 10 defense.

jeanpierre 08-19-2018 11:27 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 808817)
I saw that last year he graded out with a 77.7. I’d cut Banjo and roll with Iloka. Von Bell can slide back to Free. Iloka is a better strong safety than Kurt Coleman and Von Bell in my opinion. I think Iloka is the final piece to the puzzle of a top 10 defense.
Maybe. My concern is whether Iloka lost a step (i.e. age, undisclosed injury) or was it strictly a numbers game as it often is with Mike Brown and the Bengals...

The reason I like the Coleman signing so much is I don't see much of a future for big strong safeties and two-down thumper linebacker in a pass-happy league...

That's why there's such a premium on guys like Polomalu; if Iloka can no longer cover, then it's like Kenny V, Harper and it becomes a problematic matchup headache...

jeanpierre 08-19-2018 11:51 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 808815)
Taking a stab at a 53-man roster projection at the mid-preseason point...

Offense (24)

QB 9 Drew Brees, 7 Taysom Hill, 12 Tom Savage

HB 41 Alvin Kamara, 32 Jonathan Williams, 33 Trey Edmunds, 30 Boston Scott

FB 42 Zach Line

WR 13 Michael Thomas, 19 Ted Ginn, Jr, 81 Cameron Meredith, 10 Tre’Quan Smith, 87 Brandon Tate

TE 82 Ben Watson, 89 Josh Hill, 85 Dan Arnold

LT 72 Terron Armstead, 74 Jermon Bushrod

LG 75 Andrus Peat

C 60 Max Unger, 64 Will Clapp

RG 67 Larry Warford

RT 71 Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 Rick Leonard

Defense (26)

WDE 57 Alex Okafor, 92 Marcus Davenport

1T 95 Tyeler Davison

3T 98 Sheldon Rankins, 93 David Onyemata, 68 Devaroe Lawrence

SDE 94 Cameron Jordan, 91 Trey Hendrickson, 70 Mitchell Loewen

WLB 56 DeMario Davis, 47 Alex Anzalone

MLB 51 Manti Te’o, 52 Craig Robertson, 54 Nate Stupar

SLB 53 AJ Klein

CB 23 Marshon Lattimore, 20 Ken Crawley, 34 Justin Hardee, 27 Natrell Jamerson

NCB 21 Patrick Robinson, 37 Arthur Maulet

FS 43 Marcus Williams, 31 Chris Banjo, 39 Kamrin Moore

SS 29 Kurt Coleman, 24 Vonn Bell
Agree about QB, we're keeping three; Savage is too much a check-down specialist, eliminating our deep speed advantage; Hill needs more live round reps...

Hill could eliminate Savage from the equation with a bounce-back performance; but I think the Saints play it close to the vest on this one...

At RB, agree that Scott, Williams make the roster; disagree about FB, as it's Edmunds OR Line, not both...

Right on-board with you at Tight End, and I wouldn't be surprised if late-add John Phillips or a TE - To Be Named is a fourth TE; Hooman is done, not available...

Offensive line looks right, with Bushrod first out behind Mr. Glass, Peat; Clapp backing Warford, Unger; and Leonard is coming on late...

DE is right as well; Kikaha is a 4-3 OLB and should have been traded two seasons ago; Payton & Co. really screwed him and us by not moving him...

Would really like to keep another NT for goal line packages; but on second thought Onyemata and/or Lawrence could fill-in; this is gonna be toughest of cuts...

The more I look at LBer, the more I see only six making the roster; we're seeing more and more 5-2 and nickel than 4-3 base, but you've got the right six...

Jumper needs more work and I was surprised to see him moved to OLB as he's been a Mike LBer in college; Practice Squad candidate...

Jayrone had his PreSeason moment; Cardinals were ready for him and he was neutralized as has been his MO...

Don't see Kamrin Moore making the active roster - too far behind, still nicked up; sneak him on practice squad and develop him for later...

That leaves P.J. Williams vs Arthur Maulet; don't know why but P.J. always plays down to competition, even though he has more physical talent...

Maulet has really gotten exposed for his height in the Pre-Season games and that's why it comes down to Maulet vs Hardee and I'd take the bigger guy...

Hardee has shown amazing progress trusting the coaches with the position change and rewarding them with much improved play; also, a plus Special Teamer...

Really like your post... :bng:

jeanpierre 08-19-2018 11:52 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – Training Camp Concludes...

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (5) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201),
32 - Jonathan Williams, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 35 - Shane Vereen (FA 2018), 38 - Terrance West (FA 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)
WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA), 17 - Michael Floyd (FA 2018)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 62 - Don Barclay (FA -2018), 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill,
45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA), 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018)
WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, **15 - Josh Huff (RFC)

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, ***69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

MLB (3) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC), 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

RCB (3) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 34 - Justin Hardee, 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA), 36 - Robert Nelson (Free Agent - 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 28 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018), 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 37 - Arthur Maulet, 25 – Marcus J. Williams (Free Agent - 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)


Reserve/Injured

14 - Travin Dural (RFC)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


Active Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 43; Kicking: 3; PUP: 1

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram pending suspension of first four games of the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 15 WR Josh Huff (RFC) pending suspension of first two games of the 2018 NFL Season

***Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

jeanpierre 08-20-2018 12:14 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
JP PROJECTED 53 SAINTS DEPTH CHART - PreSeason Week 3

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018)

RB (4) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201), 32 - Jonathan Williams, 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA)

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245)

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127)

TE (4) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018)

WR-Z (2) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 19 - Ted Ginn

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LDE (3) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee

NCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell

LCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)

jeanpierre 08-20-2018 03:49 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 08-20-2018 08:43 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Twitter Recommendation: Sean Fazande has real good access and timeliness in Saints news, may want to give him a follow...

jeanpierre 08-21-2018 09:50 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
And then there were five (5)...

We now have five RBs/FBs left to fill three likely spots with Ingram, Kamara locks...

jeanpierre 08-21-2018 09:52 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason Week 3

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (5) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201),
32 - Jonathan Williams, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 35 - Shane Vereen (FA 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)[/I]
WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA), 17 - Michael Floyd (FA 2018)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 62 - Don Barclay (FA -2018), 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill,
45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA), 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018)
WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, **15 - Josh Huff (RFC)

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, ***69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

MLB (3) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC), 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

RCB (3) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 34 - Justin Hardee, 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA), 36 - Robert Nelson (Free Agent - 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 28 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018), 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 37 - Arthur Maulet, 25 – Marcus J. Williams (Free Agent - 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)


Reserve/Injured

14 - Travin Dural (RFC)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


Active Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 43; Kicking: 3; PUP: 1

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram pending suspension of first four games of the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 15 WR Josh Huff (RFC) pending suspension of first two games of the 2018 NFL Season

***Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

K Major 08-21-2018 10:00 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)


Tough cuts here. I've liked what I've seen from Devaroe, Bromley and Hamilton. From reading reports, Bromley has been the more consistent player thus far.

jeanpierre 08-21-2018 10:07 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 808903)
NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)


Tough cuts here. I've liked what I've seen from Devaroe, Bromley and Hamilton. From reading reports, Bromley has been the more consistent player thus far.
Boy you're right, Major...

Having been in the desert so long at defensive line and now all this talent from which to choose - hell, it's gonna hurt cutting some of these players...

ChrisXVI 08-21-2018 10:09 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 808901)
Picture becoming pretty clear now. Vereen will be cut so that his salary doesn’t become guaranteed and we’ll roll with Kamara, Williams, Edmunds and Scott.

K Major 08-21-2018 12:56 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018) .. I've cemented Tate in (unless he falls off a cliff over the next 2 games) as punt return specialist for 2018.

With Boston Scott emerging, I think TommyLee is gone.

ChrisXVI 08-21-2018 04:28 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

No surprise since he’s suspended to start the season.

jeanpierre 08-21-2018 09:53 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 08-21-2018 09:56 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason Week 3

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (5) *22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201), 32 - Jonathan Williams,
33 - Trey Edmunds, 35 - Shane Vereen (FA 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)[/I]
WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA), 17 - Michael Floyd (FA 2018)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 79 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford, 62 - Don Barclay (FA -2018), 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (4) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold,
45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA), 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips (FA - 2018)
WR-Z (2) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 19 - Ted Ginn, 11 - Tommylee Lewis

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 87 - Brandon Tate (FA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, **69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 47 - Alex Anzalone, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC), 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee, 36 - Robert Nelson (Free Agent - 2018)[/COLOR]

NCB (2) 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189)

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 28 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018), 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

LCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 37 - Arthur Maulet, 25 – Marcus J. Williams (Free Agent - 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)


Reserve/Injured

14 - Travin Dural (RFC)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


Active Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 43; Defense: 43; Kicking: 3; PUP: 1

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram pending suspension of first four games of the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

K Major 08-22-2018 08:46 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Since the league has adjusted the kickoff rules for 2018, I wonder if (if any) that will have any impact with the Saints and how the 53 man roster will shake down? It will be very interesting to see who Coach Payton "hides" the last 2 pre season games in efforts to slide them over to the practice squad.

ChrisXVI 08-22-2018 09:15 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 808993)
Since the league has adjusted the kickoff rules for 2018, I wonder if (if any) that will have any impact with the Saints and how the 53 man roster will shake down? It will be very interesting to see who Coach Payton "hides" the last 2 pre season games in efforts to slide them over to the practice squad.
The prevailing thought around the league seems to be that teams will keep more depth at CB and S. We typically keep 5 CB’s and 5 S’s but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we kept as many as 7 CB’s thanks to the special teams prowess of Hardee, Maulet and Jamerson.

jeanpierre 08-22-2018 11:27 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 808994)
The prevailing thought around the league seems to be that teams will keep more depth at CB and S. We typically keep 5 CB’s and 5 S’s but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we kept as many as 7 CB’s thanks to the special teams prowess of Hardee, Maulet and Jamerson.
Jamerson was a better safety than cornerback that Payton & Allen have moved back to cornerback; so at ten (10) that would be fairly well covered...

K Major 08-22-2018 11:35 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I predict 7 corner backs to make the final 53.

Crawley
P Rob
Lattimore
P.J. (for now)
Hardee
Jamerson
Maulet

K Major 08-22-2018 11:38 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
4 safeties

Williams
Coleman
Bell (for now) ... year 3. Time to produce or have a seat.
Banjo

jeanpierre 08-22-2018 01:14 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 808998)
4 safeties

Williams
Coleman
Bell (for now) ... year 3. Time to produce or have a seat.
Banjo
Think the way it works is if the music stops, you don't have a seat...

K Major 08-22-2018 02:34 PM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad ... IIRC he started with the 1's last pre season game. Don't think he made a play. Very quiet camp thus far.

Hopefully he gains momentum.


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