New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   WR DJ Clark... should we? (https://blackandgold.com/saints/87610-wr-dj-clark-should-we.html)

Cruize 03-05-2018 08:36 AM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
There's no way he's the best player available at #27.

billyt81 03-05-2018 08:54 AM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
I think Chark at pick #27 is about right actually. DJ Chark is a similar athlete to Julio Jones. There's no doubt he can run deep routes. He can turn short curls into big gains. He's more athletic than Odell Beckham and Beckham went in the 1st. The ,"we need another position" argument is retarded. If Julio Jones was there at 27 would you say, "nah. Wrong position?" That type of thinking is what gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste instead of Jarvis Landry.

SmashMouth 03-05-2018 09:48 AM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 793516)
I think Chark at pick #27 is about right actually. DJ Chark is a similar athlete to Julio Jones. There's no doubt he can run deep routes. He can turn short curls into big gains. He's more athletic than Odell Beckham and Beckham went in the 1st. The ,"we need another position" argument is retarded. If Julio Jones was there at 27 would you say, "nah. Wrong position?" That type of thinking is what gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste instead of Jarvis Landry.

If LSU had a real QB, I just wonder what his numbers would be like and hence his draft slotting guesstimate?

K Major 03-05-2018 10:48 AM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 793516)
He's more athletic than Odell Beckham and Beckham went in the 1st. The ,"we need another position" argument is retarded. If Julio Jones was there at 27 would you say, "nah. Wrong position?" That type of thinking is what gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste instead of Jarvis Landry.

DJ is not in the same stratosphere as the likes of Julio & Odell coming out of college. Too many unknowns (inconsistent separation, route recognition & field awareness). They were much more polished receivers leading up to the draft. He's not even on par with Michael Thomas in terms of route tree & he went in the 2nd.

As for the SJB pick and the rest of that class, that was on Ryan Pace's scouting dept (probably why he is no longer employed in NO).

Again, he struggles the most on his routes & used his speed to get past most defenders in the SEC. LSU never ran complicated routes. It won't come that easy in the NFL. In Sean Payton's complex offense, I don't see him on our draft board.

Beastmode 03-05-2018 11:47 AM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
He will need much work route running but he's better than Cooks IMO. Big man, great returner, good hands and the speed. Probably goes early in the 2nd so not going to happen. We will have better talent available at 27.

Rugby Saint II 03-05-2018 02:01 PM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
Please don't give me something sexy! Please give me an O-line or D-line. Big Uglies Please!!!

triman 03-05-2018 08:44 PM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
I like Chark he also has some KR skills but I would not pick him until later rd 4th earliest decent depth at WR in this draft. Greater need at other positions

triman 03-05-2018 08:46 PM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
Great minds think alike Rugby Saint

billyt81 03-06-2018 05:09 AM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
9K
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 793523)
DJ is not in the same stratosphere as the likes of Julio & Odell coming out of college. Too many unknowns (inconsistent separation, route recognition & field awareness). They were much more polished receivers leading up to the draft. He's not even on par with Michael Thomas in terms of route tree & he went in the 2nd.

As for the SJB pick and the rest of that class, that was on Ryan Pace's scouting dept (probably why he is no longer employed in NO).

Again, he struggles the most on his routes & used his speed to get past most defenders in the SEC. LSU never ran complicated routes. It won't come that easy in the NFL. In Sean Payton's complex offense, I don't see him on our draft board.

I'm sorry but this entire post is laughable. DJ Chark will be drafted higher than Mike Thomas was. Mike Thomas final season at Ohio State-56 catches, 781yds, 13.9yd avg. DJ Chark catching balls from Danny Etling-40 catches, 874 yds, 21.9 yd avg(#1 in SEC) 2 punt returns for TD(#1 in SEC). DJ Chark 4 34 40-fastest WR in the draft, running a faster 40 than Julio Jones and AJ Green. DJ Chark 6"3 with a 40" vertical(best WR vert in the draft) DJ Chark MVP of the Senior Bowl with 5 catches for 160 yds. His route running and seperation looked OK in that game. I think ya'll are listening to Mel Kiper too much. Whenever Chark's number was called, he produced. He is absolutely sensational with the ball in his hands. Name me another guy who led the SEC in punt return TDs who is 6"3. Cruize says he won't be the best player available at pick #27. He has the talent to be the best player in the draft, plus he's known to be a high character guy and a hard worker. K Major, I played WR for Danny Abramowicz. I studied and practiced route running A LOT. You say LSU never ran complicated routes. What does that even mean? The route tree, which everyone uses has 10 routes-0-9. Of course some guys run these routes better than others but you'll have to explain to me what a complicated route is. Then you question his "route recognition" That is not even a term used in football and I say if you lead the SEC in yards per catch, you obviously have good "field awareness" another term I've never heard. Bottom line-Chark's measurables say he's Terell Owens or Randy Moss. I'm sorry. More athletic than Randy Moss. Both 6"3. Moss 194lbs/Chark 199lbs, Moss hands 9.63 inches/Chark 9.25", 40yd dash Moss 4.38/Chark 4.34, vertical leap Moss 33"/Chark 40", broad jump Moss 117"/Chark 129" Throw in his 16 bench press reps and he's literally one of the best physical specimens to ever attend the combine. Period. LSUs pass offense was woeful. Not Chark's fault. Still he had more yds his final college season than Mike Thomas and AJ Green and was the most dangerous punt returner in the SEC. I'm gonna remind ya'll about this every time DJ. Chark ends up on Sports Center after another sensational TD. I pray he's wearing Black and Gold. WhoDat!

Beastmode 03-06-2018 07:01 AM

Re: WR DJ Clark... should we?
 
Billy81, some on here are comparing him to Julio. The physical attributes are there but Julio was the 6th overall pick for a reason. DJ won't even be in the top 20 and it's highly probable a couple of WR's go before him.

You may be right, maybe he does blow up on the field but there are so many factors, just like at LSU that will dictate his impact. I hope he does well and he would with Brees but we are not getting him at 27. Too many other needs and players that can fill those right now.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:12 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com