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His old teammates seem to want him back and that is enough for me as long as he can produce.
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I have always liked the idea of Jimmy returning....as long as the price is right. He would give us a dimension that has been missing since he left and add to a potent offence. He and Brees would be back in synch immediately. Now that we have a running game, the addition of a strong experienced TE seems like the final missing piece.
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Yeah. That tweet was a jab at Payton. Hence the delete. |
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And what does Ryan not being Graham's coach have to do with anything? Hicks was a square peg in a round hole in Ryan's crappy defensive scheme. Graham could see that as easily as anyone. |
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All he had to do was sign. Nobody stopped him. Not his agent. Not the NFLPA. Like I said earlier, otherwise somebody goes to jail. Believe it or don’t, but Jimmy knew exactly what he was doing. To believe your angle would be to believe he was some sort of victim, and, as I said, we can agree to disagree. |
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No, Graham wasn't a victim. There were no victims. It was simply a legal issue that hurt nobody. And where the heck are you getting this jail tripe? Yes, Jimmy knew what he was doing and why he was doing it. It is clear that you don't understand. You are making it all too personal. Nobody did anything wrong. It is all just business. Lighten up. |
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Didn’t realize how bad we have been at TE since he left. We rank 31st in TE production since that time
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Again, NOBODY FORCED him to do anything. The choice was his and he knew exactly what he was doing - your words, and you're the self-proclaimed expert eh? Otherwise, what you call 'tripe' would be against the law, and thank you again for proving my point. The agent and the NFLPA forced Jimmy not to sign? Sir you need to get real. What is clear is that the only person taking this personal is you sir. YOU are the one who, by your own admission read everything ever published on the internet on the subject. For me, this is just my football team, not my life. We could have just agreed to disagree, but you won't let it go. As for lightening up, I think a look in your mirror is in order sir. |
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Is it really likely he comes back?
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How much power will we have to sign if Green Bay, New England, Dallas, and Oakland vie for him? Would he still want to stick it to us by going to Atlanta?
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Once again, why is that so bad? Why are you so bent out of shape over it? Explain your distress. I don't understand why you are so bent out of shape over it. Yes, he knew what he was doing and what he was doing had nothing to do with any of your personal business. And once again, bullcrap on your overreaction that anything related could ever be "against the law". Get a grip, dude. |
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"Dealt without warning?"
Oh yeah the Mickster and the Paytoner should have called and asked if it was alright with him that he get traded. Happens all the time in the NFL, just ask Belichick! I'll bet they didn't even help him pack or give him a ride to airport! |
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Rather than acknowledge the rest of that...tripe...let's just stick to the part where you prove my point. Again. My position is that Jimmy knew what he was doing and could have stopped it had he wanted to. Twice in your last two posts you agree. So what on earth are you still arguing for? Your position is that he was used as an unwitting pawn by the NFLPA. Your position is wrong. Jimmy controls Jimmy. Nobody else. You keep proving me right. It's time to agree to disagree dude. The quickest way out of a hole is to stop digging bro. |
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What was there to stop? What was so terrible about a lawsuit to solve a legal loophole? Why does it rile you so much. To be honest I enjoyed the legal play since I knew it meant nothing to me personally. What is your issue? :confused: |
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Right now? My "issue"? Well, the fact that you won't just let it go and agree to disagree, which I've been trying to do for a while now. My point is that Jimmy knew what he was doing. You initially argued that he was merely a pawn. I have shown your take to be bogus, so much so that you have agreed with me in multiple posts. You lost. Move on. It's ok. It's just a football forum. :bng: |
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I haven't moved my sticks an inch. And my take is anything but bogus. It is based far more in fact than anything you have attempted to present. Yes, it is just a football forum, but when you choose to present faulty arguments demeaning persons who are not at fault I will come to their defense with a passion. You, Sir, are wrong. Sorry. |
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For the love of Pete man let it go.
My point was that he was not merely a pawn. Your point is that he was. You lose. You were always going to lose, because your argument only holds water if someone else was in charge of Jimmy's contract. Of course that is ludicrous. We all new that before your last 10 posts or however many you've posted trying to re-frame the debate. Debates don't work that way bro. You're staring to look foolish(er). Good God man. Just stop. Do you not think anyone who's interested cant simply scroll up to see who's 'demeaning'? Stop digging dude. Let it go. Deep breaths. You might win a debate against me someday. Today is not the day. |
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Sorry, but you lose this debate. From the very beginning. My whole point has always been that he had no choice because the choice was so overwhelming based upon the importance relayed by the NFLPA. Yes. He had a choice, but was still a pawn because his choice was limited to one choice. |
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You know what? You win. Everything you said was right. Everything I said was wrong. Feel better? God I hope so... |
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He won't be signing here. He rubbed the leadership against the grain.
Maybe the Browns but not here. Too many TE FA's with way more upside, especially in the blocking dept. |
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Mike Gesicki from Penn State is the exact same player for way cheaper and 10 years younger.
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Jimmy is an old man for a TE. Dude is very beat up and didn't show up for about 6 games last season. He was a ghost. No way this happens. Time to either draft or make a good read in the FA market with a younger prospect.
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Super interesting. if the money is right, he's an upgrade from Fleener.
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Kick the tires, see what he has left in the tank. If need be, bring him back.
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Lets just make sure we get someone who is the master of his own domain and doesn't try to blame the NFLPA for his contract status. We don't need that kind of drama...
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I believe JG would give saints home town savings to be with the hofer Brees on the the last whoo raa. For the 2 hey why not have him back the seas would part in red zone
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If I had to fly my single engine fixed wing 3500 miles up mountains to a rainy day city I’d be pissed a little while too |
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The list is long but it won't be available officially until after the draft. We may not even need the list if we draft one. |
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Beast,
I was looking at TE stats from every NFL team in 2017. Fleener, Hill, Griffin & Housyowatchalic combined for 26 1st downs & 4 tds :rolleyes:. Jimmy Dickens - 34 1st downs & 10 TD's in a run 1st offense up in Seattle. Even at 32 years old, that's big time production. Imagine him back w/NO & Brees. He doesn't have to be "the man", just a red zone night mare & 3rd down target. Remember in that Vikings playoff game, we could have sealed their fate if we would have only converted a 1st late in the game. I think Jimmy can help this team get over the hump offensively ... specifically in the red zone and on 3rd downs. Nick Underhill & a few other credible sources think the interest to return is mutual. If it makes sense (financially), he needs to come back & help us win another title. It's been too long :bng:. |
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