Criticize all you want, but ...

GumboBC · 04-24-2005, 11:34 AM

... this draft looks very very good to me.

Jamal Brown was the highest rated OL on most boards and now our offensive line looks to be dominant.

I'm sorry some of you got your hearts broken (and I did too) when DJ wasn't selected with the pick, but Jamal Brown was rated a better RT than what DJ was as a LB.

The "expert" opinion is that there's little question Jamal will be a Pro Bowl RT but there are a lot of questions surronding DJ's ability to handle the pro game. (not from me but from the experts)

Moving on to the 2nd round -- Bullock? Okay ... that pick confuses me. We really didn't need a FS. But, the guy was rated anywhere from a 1st round pick to a second day pick. Judging by his production he seems like one hell of a ball-hawking safety. Not a real need, although Bellamy is getting up there in age!

To the 3rd round: Alfred Fincher? Who the hell is Alfred Fincher. Only the most underrated ILB in the draft. A guy who is considered to have the most upside of any ILB in the draft. A guy who is considered a GREAT LEADER! (where are all of you guys who claim leadership is the most important quality?)

You couldn't ask for a harder worker than Alfred Fincher. This is a guy who just "gets it done !! Am I just making this up? Nope. You can call the "experts" wrong. And they could be wrong. They could also be wrong about every player in the draft. Including all those LB many fans wanted. Fincher has gotten it done on the field and I'm more happy with him than any of the other LB's we could have selected in the 2nd.. And aftering hearing the experts commment on DJ and afther watching DJ, he didn't look like "all that" to me, anyway.

Looks like a successful draft to me so far. Will it translate into a playoff berth for the Saints. Hmmmm .. don't know, but I'm sure looking foward to seeing Deuce run behind our offensive line. And I'm looking foward to Brooks having a lot of time to find our speedy receivers.

And this Fincher kid. I'm real excited about him and I love is attitude.

Where are the guys who love leadership? Money where your mouth is?

;)

[Edited on 24/4/2005 by GumboBC]

Saint_LB · 04-24-2005, 11:45 AM

I hope Fincher does step up and become the steal of the draft, but only time will tell. The kid sounds like a winner from all accounts I have read on him.

Final pieces of the puzzle would be a decent DT and a LB corp to step it up a couple of notches. Could Sully fill the DT slot??? Probably not, but now I am starting to think like Gumbo....frightening!!

GumboBC · 04-24-2005, 11:54 AM

I hope Fincher does step up and become the steal of the draft, but only time will tell. The kid sounds like a winner from all accounts I have read on him.

Final pieces of the puzzle would be a decent DT and a LB corp to step it up a couple of notches. Could Sully fill the DT slot??? Probably not, but now I am starting to think like Gumbo....frightening!!

Saint_LB --

I really like this Fincher kid. What I really love about Fincher is his \"attitude\". I think ILB must have an \"attitude\". I guess that\'s one reason I\'m really not high on Courtney Watson. He justs seems to laid back to me.

Heck, Mel Kiper had Fincher rated as a better LB than Crowder.

And as far as Jamal Brown, I couldn\'t be happier. If I had to go back and do it again ... I would take Brown over DJ.

Some Saints\' fans love to nit-pik. I can\'t believe some folks are complaining about give up NEXT YEARS 3rd to move up a couple of spots to STEAL Brown away from the Panthers. Please!!

Saint_LB -- I think you like this draft somewhat? And you\'re pretty hard on the team. So, if you\'re half-way pleased then it can\'t be all bad ...

[Edited on 24/4/2005 by GumboBC]

BlackEyeP · 04-24-2005, 11:55 AM

I don\'t think Bullock was that bad of a pick. He\'s smart both of his parents are doctors. From the video I\'ve seen , the guy shows maturity especially after he makes a big play he just walks off the field without calling attention to himself by breakdancing or pantomiming some silly act. I also believe we need a better secondary since Haslett is commiting to the run. We should be in control of Time of Possesion, and scoring more so it only makes since that teams will be trying to play catchup, so we really need a better secondary. I know Hasslet said Bellamy is getting old but if he or Smith gets hurt we really didn\'t have a backup. I don\'t think Gleason or Mitchell would be sufficient if that were to happen. All in all though I think we could have addressed more important needs, I have to say I think Bullock will be a fine player.

Saint_LB · 04-24-2005, 01:53 PM

Saint_LB -- I think you like this draft somewhat? And you\'re pretty hard on the team. So, if you\'re half-way pleased then it can\'t be all bad ...

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Is there any one player the Saints could draft this weekend that would make you think the Saints are a true playoff contender?
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No, not just one. However, if they drafted one of the \"killer B\'s\" (Barron, Barnes, or Brown) to play OT so Mayberry can play his natural guard spot, and a solid LB that pans out...and that is the critical part...then I would be less \"pessimistic.\" I am not sold on DJ, however, for the LB spot. From the little bit of video I\'ve seen on him, he appears to lanky to be successful in the NFL. I have read in this forum that he has bulked up, but I have not seen that myself, and my Dad always told me not to believe any of what I hear, and only half of what I see.

This was my response before the draft, so you can see that I pretty much got what I wanted. Never heard of Fincher, but he is a LB. If he pans out, then I got exactly what I asked for!!

04-24-2005, 11:34 AM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Criticize all you want, but ... ... this draft looks very very good to me. Jamal Brown was the highest rated OL on most boards and now our offensive line looks to be dominant. I'm sorry some of you got your hearts broken (and I did too) when DJ wasn't selected with the pick, but Jamal Brown was rated a better RT than what DJ was as a LB. The "expert" opinion is that there's little question Jamal will be a Pro Bowl RT but there are a lot of questions surronding DJ's ability to handle the pro game. (not from me but from the experts) Moving on to the 2nd round -- Bullock? Okay ... that pick confuses me. We really didn't need a FS. But, the guy was rated anywhere from a 1st round pick to a second day pick. Judging by his production he seems like one hell of a ball-hawking safety. Not a real need, although Bellamy is getting up there in age! To the 3rd round: Alfred Fincher? Who the hell is Alfred Fincher. Only the most underrated ILB in the draft. A guy who is considered to have the most upside of any ILB in the draft. A guy who is considered a GREAT LEADER! (where are all of you guys who claim leadership is the most important quality?) You couldn't ask for a harder worker than Alfred Fincher. This is a guy who just "gets it done !! Am I just making this up? Nope. You can call the "experts" wrong. And they could be wrong. They could also be wrong about every player in the draft. Including all those LB many fans wanted. Fincher has gotten it done on the field and I'm more happy with him than any of the other LB's we could have selected in the 2nd.. And aftering hearing the experts commment on DJ and afther watching DJ, he didn't look like "all that" to me, anyway. Looks like a successful draft to me so far. Will it translate into a playoff berth for the Saints. Hmmmm .. don't know, but I'm sure looking foward to seeing Deuce run behind our offensive line. And I'm looking foward to Brooks having a lot of time to find our speedy receivers. And this Fincher kid. I'm real excited about him and I love is attitude. Where are the guys who love leadership? Money where your mouth is? ;) [Edited on 24/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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04-24-2005, 11:45 AM	#2
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Criticize all you want, but ... I hope Fincher does step up and become the steal of the draft, but only time will tell. The kid sounds like a winner from all accounts I have read on him. Final pieces of the puzzle would be a decent DT and a LB corp to step it up a couple of notches. Could Sully fill the DT slot??? Probably not, but now I am starting to think like Gumbo....frightening!!
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04-24-2005, 11:54 AM	#3
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Criticize all you want, but ... I hope Fincher does step up and become the steal of the draft, but only time will tell. The kid sounds like a winner from all accounts I have read on him. Final pieces of the puzzle would be a decent DT and a LB corp to step it up a couple of notches. Could Sully fill the DT slot??? Probably not, but now I am starting to think like Gumbo....frightening!! Saint_LB -- I really like this Fincher kid. What I really love about Fincher is his \"attitude\". I think ILB must have an \"attitude\". I guess that\'s one reason I\'m really not high on Courtney Watson. He justs seems to laid back to me. Heck, Mel Kiper had Fincher rated as a better LB than Crowder. And as far as Jamal Brown, I couldn\'t be happier. If I had to go back and do it again ... I would take Brown over DJ. Some Saints\' fans love to nit-pik. I can\'t believe some folks are complaining about give up NEXT YEARS 3rd to move up a couple of spots to STEAL Brown away from the Panthers. Please!! Saint_LB -- I think you like this draft somewhat? And you\'re pretty hard on the team. So, if you\'re half-way pleased then it can\'t be all bad ... [Edited on 24/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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04-24-2005, 11:55 AM	#4
BlackEyeP Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Winter Park via Metairie Posts: 24	Criticize all you want, but ... I don\'t think Bullock was that bad of a pick. He\'s smart both of his parents are doctors. From the video I\'ve seen , the guy shows maturity especially after he makes a big play he just walks off the field without calling attention to himself by breakdancing or pantomiming some silly act. I also believe we need a better secondary since Haslett is commiting to the run. We should be in control of Time of Possesion, and scoring more so it only makes since that teams will be trying to play catchup, so we really need a better secondary. I know Hasslet said Bellamy is getting old but if he or Smith gets hurt we really didn\'t have a backup. I don\'t think Gleason or Mitchell would be sufficient if that were to happen. All in all though I think we could have addressed more important needs, I have to say I think Bullock will be a fine player.

04-24-2005, 01:53 PM	#5
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Criticize all you want, but ... Saint_LB -- I think you like this draft somewhat? And you\'re pretty hard on the team. So, if you\'re half-way pleased then it can\'t be all bad ... quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is there any one player the Saints could draft this weekend that would make you think the Saints are a true playoff contender? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No, not just one. However, if they drafted one of the \"killer B\'s\" (Barron, Barnes, or Brown) to play OT so Mayberry can play his natural guard spot, and a solid LB that pans out...and that is the critical part...then I would be less \"pessimistic.\" I am not sold on DJ, however, for the LB spot. From the little bit of video I\'ve seen on him, he appears to lanky to be successful in the NFL. I have read in this forum that he has bulked up, but I have not seen that myself, and my Dad always told me not to believe any of what I hear, and only half of what I see. This was my response before the draft, so you can see that I pretty much got what I wanted. Never heard of Fincher, but he is a LB. If he pans out, then I got exactly what I asked for!!
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