Vikings Trying to Get Brees

ChrisXVI · 03-12-2018, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Per Total Access Saints offered Drew 22 million a year per Charlie Casserly on NFL Network just now.

That’s... Surprisingly low.

SaintGnome · 03-12-2018, 07:34 PM

Lotta misinformation out there right now. On local talk radio I heard a few days ago Vikes were offering Cousins 3 yr/90 million guaranteed then...nothing, now they're after Brees. Yeah, right.

voodooido · 03-12-2018, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Trade up??? You know what that will cost? NO WAY.

You obviously didn’t read my whole post. I said if we lose Drew we would have no choice but to trade up. We will take a 18 million dead money cap hit if he’s not not signed by us before 4pm Wednesday. What qb out there could we sign with the money left? None worth a damn. Sign drew or move up. These are the only two options.

saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2018, 08:56 PM

Yawn. Talk to me at 3:59:59 EST Wednesday.

AsylumGuido · 03-12-2018, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Per Total Access Saints offered Drew 22 million a year per Charlie Casserly on NFL Network just now.

I call bullcrap. I was watching when Casserly pulled that figure out of his ass because of what he said the Saints paid him the last contract per year. There was no basis in fact, it was what he would have "thought" they would have ponied up.

Dumb****.

voodooido · 03-12-2018, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I call bullcrap. I was watching when Casserly pulled that figure out of his ass because of what he said the Saints paid him the last contract per year. There was no basis in fact, it was what he would have "thought" they would have ponied up.

Dumb****.

You’ve been a huge “saints will sign drew” vocalist. What do you believe the hold up is? Less than two days to go.

Oh and if they screw this up and lose drew they need to trade for foles. Only one we could Afford that could step in day one.

saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2018, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You’ve been a huge “saints will sign drew” vocalist. What do you believe the hold up is? Less than two days to go.

Oh and if they screw this up and lose drew they need to trade for foles. Only one we could Afford that could step in day one.

Then there is no hold up. Drew's deals have always gone to the wire. He's the largest expense. Makes sense why it takes time.

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2018, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You’ve been a huge “saints will sign drew” vocalist. What do you believe the hold up is? Less than two days to go.

Oh and if they screw this up and lose drew they need to trade for foles. Only one we could Afford that could step in day one.

I have posted for months that I expect the finalization of the deal to take place at the very last second once both sides know what the Saints front office needs for cap space in relation to free agency. Finalizing any deal prior to that point limits the flexibility needed to be most effective in making other deals.

There is no good reason why any Brees deal needs to be made before then and pacifying Saints fans is not a good reason. To be honest, it really doesn't even HAVE to be made before then. They Saints could take the $18M hit and structure the new deal to only have let's say a $4 base with a $40M roster bonus due March 2019 which could then be converted to a signing bonus and prorated over the final four years of a contract with higher year two through year four base salaries. The possibilities are endless in how deals can be structured. But this would still leave the 2018 cap hit at $22M even with the $18M hit from the previous voided deal.

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2018, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Then there is no hold up. Drew's deals have always gone to the wire. He's the largest expense. Makes sense why it takes time.

Exactly! What is the rush? Everyone involved KNOWS a deal is going to be made. If there was any issue don't you think that Loomis, Payton and Brees all there at Strief's retirement press conference would have appeared to be far less relaxed? I just don't get why some fans getting so antsy.

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2018, 08:30 AM

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Originally Posted by SmashMouth Per Total Access Saints offered Drew 22 million a year per Charlie Casserly on NFL Network just now. That’s... Surprisingly low.

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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Lotta misinformation out there right now. On local talk radio I heard a few days ago Vikes were offering Cousins 3 yr/90 million guaranteed then...nothing, now they're after Brees. Yeah, right.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Originally Posted by Euphoria Trade up??? You know what that will cost? NO WAY. You obviously didn’t read my whole post. I said if we lose Drew we would have no choice but to trade up. We will take a 18 million dead money cap hit if he’s not not signed by us before 4pm Wednesday. What qb out there could we sign with the money left? None worth a damn. Sign drew or move up. These are the only two options.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Yawn. Talk to me at 3:59:59 EST Wednesday.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Originally Posted by SmashMouth Per Total Access Saints offered Drew 22 million a year per Charlie Casserly on NFL Network just now. I call bullcrap. I was watching when Casserly pulled that figure out of his ass because of what he said the Saints paid him the last contract per year. There was no basis in fact, it was what he would have "thought" they would have ponied up. Dumb****. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I call bullcrap. I was watching when Casserly pulled that figure out of his ass because of what he said the Saints paid him the last contract per year. There was no basis in fact, it was what he would have "thought" they would have ponied up. Dumb****. You’ve been a huge “saints will sign drew” vocalist. What do you believe the hold up is? Less than two days to go. Oh and if they screw this up and lose drew they need to trade for foles. Only one we could Afford that could step in day one.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Originally Posted by voodooido You’ve been a huge “saints will sign drew” vocalist. What do you believe the hold up is? Less than two days to go. Oh and if they screw this up and lose drew they need to trade for foles. Only one we could Afford that could step in day one. Then there is no hold up. Drew's deals have always gone to the wire. He's the largest expense. Makes sense why it takes time. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Originally Posted by voodooido You’ve been a huge “saints will sign drew” vocalist. What do you believe the hold up is? Less than two days to go. Oh and if they screw this up and lose drew they need to trade for foles. Only one we could Afford that could step in day one. I have posted for months that I expect the finalization of the deal to take place at the very last second once both sides know what the Saints front office needs for cap space in relation to free agency. Finalizing any deal prior to that point limits the flexibility needed to be most effective in making other deals. There is no good reason why any Brees deal needs to be made before then and pacifying Saints fans is not a good reason. To be honest, it really doesn't even HAVE to be made before then. They Saints could take the $18M hit and structure the new deal to only have let's say a $4 base with a $40M roster bonus due March 2019 which could then be converted to a signing bonus and prorated over the final four years of a contract with higher year two through year four base salaries. The possibilities are endless in how deals can be structured. But this would still leave the 2018 cap hit at $22M even with the $18M hit from the previous voided deal. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Vikings Trying to Get Brees Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Then there is no hold up. Drew's deals have always gone to the wire. He's the largest expense. Makes sense why it takes time. Exactly! What is the rush? Everyone involved KNOWS a deal is going to be made. If there was any issue don't you think that Loomis, Payton and Brees all there at Strief's retirement press conference would have appeared to be far less relaxed? I just don't get why some fans getting so antsy.

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