Adrian McPherson
 

I see.

Adrian McPherson
 

Three thing you can count on from Billy:

1) Defend AB at all costs.
2) When his posts are questioned, immediately deflect blame as in \"I am just responding to you guys\' saying this yatta yatta yatta BS.\"
3)Defend AB at all cost

In case you are unaware, which I am sure you aren\'t Billy cause you are here everyday, we discussed McPherson on this board before the draft EXTENSIVELY. We discussed his character issues and flaws EXTENSIVELY. We discussed what he was accused of EXTENSIVELY. We discussed his pre draft interviews EXTENSIVELY. We discussed the theft and gambling accusation EXTENSIVELY. The guy expressed remorse and apologized for the check deal, and has NEVER admitted to the gambling and was convicted on the word of an ex friend who took a deal from the state. NFL experts seemed willing ot agree he deserved a shot too. Hardly ANYONE here has heard of Fincher, and he is your hero cause peopel question the pick. When people like a pick, you have to poo-poo it. That is so transparent. At some point, people recognize your games for what they are, and it appears more and more are catching on.

Adrian McPherson
 

His negatives remind me of someone else, almost verbatim:
Can you guess which current superstar this exact same thing was said about a few years ago?

Sounds like our favorite simplex Number 7!


Also sounds exactly like the knocks on McNabb when he came out.

Adrian McPherson
 

Maybe an Elway or Brady.

Adrian McPherson
 

saintwhodi --

There\'s one thing I\'m sure of. You and I see things completely different when it comes to football.

You can\'t predict what a team\'s record will be because you don\'t know who owns the team.

You think our offense made our defesne look so much worse than what it was. (Taking up for our defense by blaming the offense)

You have no problem trading away Deuce McAllister.

You think the Saints drafted Will Smith because they could see Darren Howard was washed up.

You justify our offense line being good by saying the it was better than the Rams offensive line. WTF?

I could go on and on ... but I don\'t want to.

My point is a very simple one. Some guys say they think \"leadership\" and \"character\" are the 2 most important qualities a QB can have.

But those same guys don\'t apply that for eveyone.

It makes no difference to me. Just pointing it out.

Carry on telling us how we didn\'t need offensive line help. Afterall, the Rams made it to the playoffs with a worse line than ours.

And tell us how our receivers droping passess didn\'t hurt. Afterall, the Seahawks dropped more passes.

Makes perfect sense to me. Someone else did worse so therefore we\'re okay.

I understand you, saintwhodi. A LOT more than what you think ...

:D

Adrian McPherson
 

Adrian McPherson
 

Just in case someones tired of the mudslinging and missed this

Adrian McPherson
 

Ditto

Adrian McPherson
 

Ok, this may in part be my fault, but I\'m going to put an end to it in this thread.

Posts about other posters are not acceptable. Stop now.

Apologies for any hand I had in starting that.

[Edited on 24/4/2005 by JKool]

Adrian McPherson
 

I\'m not missing what you\'re saying, Danno. Personally, I like the pick.

I like athletic QBs who can makes plays with their arm and their legs.

His character is of little concern to me. If he doesn\'t work out, no big deal to me. He was drafted low. No biggie.

But some folks think that guys like that are a \"cancer\" to the team. They infect other players. That\'s what I\'ve been told.

That\'s what I\'ve been beat over the head with.

IF that is true, then it really doesn\'t make any difference what round he was drafted in. Cancer doesn\'t care what round you are drafted in. It just spreads thoughout the whole team until they slowily collapse in December!!

;)

[Edited on 24/4/2005 by GumboBC]

Adrian McPherson
 

Danno,

None of Vick, Culpepper, or McNabb were selected in the 5th round. So, while some things sound the same among them and McPherson, there is one key difference: teams believed that Vick, Culpepper, and McNabb would be good strongly enough to make them 1st round picks - not so for McPherson.

Don\'t get me wrong, I would love for McPherson to be our McNabb, but the evidence just isn\'t there... yet.

Adrian McPherson
 

:shrug:

Adrian McPherson
 

I can\'t get \'em all Whodi; I\'m workin\' on it.

That, at least, wasn\'t directed at any one person. There are several people here who think that, if it was clearly directed at you, I\'ll take further action.

Adrian McPherson
 

Just stirring the pot Kool. I am just pissed I can\'t respond to that falsehood ridden post about me, and that we took Brown instead of DJ. ;)

So to put all that aside, I will say again, the McPherson pick is my favorite of the whole draft. Hopefully his upside gets to show, but some feel our current QB has actually regressed, which is definitely not a good thing for McPherson\'s development.

Adrian McPherson
 

And I\'m just pissed because there are a lot of pissed off folks on the board.

The draft was actually pretty good. If Fincher works out it could be a great one.

[Edited on 24/4/2005 by GumboBC]

Adrian McPherson
 

McPherson starts by week 10.

By the way, I\'m posting this about another poster--

I always like reading what JKool has to say.

Adrian McPherson
 

I\'m glad you are happy with McPherson. After round 4, I usually get pretty indifferent to the picks - sure some of them turn out to be great, but they\'re not usually impact players (unless they are FBs).

I\'m glad you chose not to respond to that earlier post.

I hope McPherson turns out to be the second coming of McNabb.

Adrian McPherson
 

FSN radio when reporting this pick said that the team with aaron brooks got a guy who at best will be aaron brooks.....damn, I hate this draft.

Adrian McPherson
 

I\'m gonna take a \"wait and see\" approach to McPherson. In the AM discussions before the draft, I wasn\'t shy about saying I was leary of him ... and I remain so. But the guy says all he wants is a shot, and I\'m willing to give it to him.

I agree that the need for a backup QB needed to be addressed, and AM was as solid a prospect as any ... especially to have gotten him in the 5th. The word \"potential\" works both ways: we got someone with tremendous potential, he could be truly great - an absolute steal - or a complete nightmare. He has the potential - even reputation - for both.

I\'ll neither applaud nor bash him until I seem him on the field in the black and gold.

Adrian McPherson
 

Everyone knows i have always supported AB on this board, but come this time next year i think he(A-Mac) will be starting for us!!! the only reason he wasn\'t a first rd pick was because he made a mistake when he was younger!period

Adrian McPherson
 

BMG, why you always gots to be so smart!

You knew what I meant, and so did those guys. ;)

Mutey, a good stance. I favor that myself.

Adrian McPherson
 

I think you misunderstood.
I said I think he has similar skills. Take away the troubles and he MAY have been a 1st/2nd rounder. I never said he was the next Vick/McNabb/Culpepper. But he\'s got almost as much upside as all 3.

Adrian McPherson
 

..hmmm..

..actually, Billy has a point... even if it is intertwined with some protectiveness of AB... we always talk about character, and how knowledge of the QB position outweighs physical talent...

Adrian McPherson
 

Actually Billy, I did bring it up in this thread about McPherson. ;) We actually agree here. This guy still has HUGE question marks around him in my mind.

All of this speculation and excitement, IMO, is based mainly on the fact that mnay people are simply fed up with Brooks. I, for one, think McPherson is going to have to do a lot to prove himself in camp, preseason, and this season and on before I call him the next big thing.... or even the starter. AB is the starting QB of the Saints until someone else proves otherwise. I\'m hopeful that McPherson can use his talent to be the QB many of us thought AB was going to be 4 years ago. Until that time, he\'s a fifth round QB with great talent and questionable INTANGIBLES and CHARACTER. Billy is right. :o

Adrian McPherson
 

as long as we can get someone to write checks for him, he might turn out ok...

of all the qb\'s left out there that we could ahve picked up maybe a round earlier, we get the guy who was kicked out of college....

talk about par for the saints...

Adrian McPherson
 

This pick got me really excited. I mean....to get anybody that is familiar name in the 5th round is amazing. This is THE thing for Saint\'s fans to talk about during the offseason....the new conversation topic.

Great pick just for the fans. I prey that he actually gets a chance here, instead of being pushed aside for Brooks only to do great somewhere else (like Jake and Mark).

[Edited on 25/4/2005 by cardboardboxer]

Adrian McPherson
 

I think that having a real prospect at back-up can only have an upside. Granted, Macpherson is not Rivers and Brooks is not Brees, but this dynamic will only raise the production levels at the QB position.

2005 season prediction?

LOTS of offence......... We\'ll have to see what shapes up for the D.

Adrian McPherson
 

I don\'t see any reason to believe that the drafting of McPherson will change Brooks behavior one bit. During the time Brooks has been here, Bouman has been brough in presumably to play if necessary, and such heros as JT O\'Sullivan and Jake Delhomme were here - same ol\' AB.

Adrian McPherson
 

Read an article today that stated the Saints scouted McPherson for over a year. And were ecstatic he fell to the 5th round and they still got him. Seems like you have plans for a guy who has been out of college football for a year yet you still continue to scout him that deeply.

Adrian McPherson
 

Forward thinking from the Saints? I too, thought this was noteworthy.

Look...I realize that the QB is the headiest position on the team. There are many layers to making a man a great QB and it would be unrealistic to think AMAC will play like manning this year. If we had taken him in the 2nd (not that our 2nd pick made any sense) this draft could have really been called into question. Guys picked in this slot are usually practice squadders. I have heard several say that he would have been a niner without all the red flags.

Yes, there are concerns here, but he\'s late rounder and there is no risk here. You cut bait if he doesn\'t work out after a couple of years.


Here aer my reasons for optimism:

1) stayed at home with the parents for the draft. people from tight families are more likely to dust themselves off. it\'s the guys that don\'t have dads or hate their mothers that end up going nuts. this all makes me feel better about the young guy who acted up theory. he is saying th right things. is it lip service? only one way to find out.

2) took some lumps and had to play arena ball. a humbling experience that could very well build character and quick reaction time.

3) I don\'t care what level you are playing at i think the numbers from FSU and the AFL are: 79 TDs and 6 Ints. (Check my numbers, but it\'s something like that.) This makes me feel like he\'s not an uncontrolled big arm who makes safe throws.

Adrian McPherson