Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

Rings are overrated. These guys have just a few years to make very BIG money. Suh is luckier than most as he's been around more than 2 or 3 years and has signed multiple contracts.

If it's me, I'm going for the money. That doesn't mean I'm not a team guy. I'm totally a team guy, and I'd even take a discount if I'm in the very fortunate position of a guy like Brees. Then again, 27 million ain't exactly pocket change...

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No they're not, they open a lot of doors - case in point, in my business I deal with marine, agriculture, energy (oil & gas) - wide array of folks...

My friend Hal asked me to hire his kid to work in my warehouse one summer, give him a taste at real works as he wasn't putting in the time on books...

At 14, this kid was already identified by pitching scouts across the country, I caught him in my warehouse on a slow afternoon - wicked movement, he was legit...

But this kid knew it all, he was deaf to good advice; and he felt he was maxed out and wouldn't be a "real" pitcher; had him meet an ex-minor leaguer...



As I still do business with the former pro, can't name drop, but he's got local connections and he's now a company man (if you work around oil & gas, that's a big deal)...

This former pro never played a day in the majors, but he met a lot of big league talent on rehab reassignment...

He'd hook big leaguer friends up with terrific fishing trips down here, then he started inviting big oil execs on these fishing excursions...

Now he is a company man, earning over 500K a year and he's still doing this same schtick even today...



Had him come by one Friday afternoon as I cook for my crew, and tThat day he told Hal's stubborn son this and I'll never forget it...

"...if I could've played in the Bigs, maybe even rode the bench on a Series Winner, this would be peanuts - they all want to meet a winner..."

Remember it like it was yesterday, and he was absolutely right...

And no, the kid flunked out, GED, is expecting his third child at age 22 working as a deckhand on a barge...

Yeah, getting guaranteed money is important, but don't kid yourself - Rings Matter...

Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

Suh wont be in the HOF anyway imo.
Don't see him leaving LA without a deal.

The Rams looking really strong at the moment.

Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

He's going to take the money...wouldn't you?

Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

Lots of stories like that. I know a few guys who might have 'made it'. Heck, with a better head on my shoulders when I was a kid I might have made a hell of a second baseman - I didn't have the arm to play short or third. :-)

But it's not the point I was making. I'm saying a guy like Suh - everybody throws rocks because he's going for the money. I'm just being real. I'm saying that people throwing those rocks aren't in his shoes. Suh is clearly looking past football. Aaron Brooks is another savvy guy who held out, made lots of money, and has put it to great use for himself and his family. Put a ring in my left and and put an extra 5 million in the other hand. I promise you I'll give the ring back every time.

As fans we look at these guys and expect them to have the same loyalty. Very few players ever end up in a position to lend itself to loyalty. They get cut. Business decisions.

So I'm going for the money. Rings are nice, but for 99% of the players in the league 'nice' is all they are. That doesn't mean they aren't motivated to get one. Who doesn't want to win the big game? But, in my opinion, that misses the point.

Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

Not at this point in my career. I've got money I need a Superbowl ring to get into the HOF

Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

Its hard to predict or what makes most sense for him.

I don't understand why sign with a team in hopes of playing for a winner and getting a ring:

Its a gamble. Players who have done this probably realize its still a gamble and so difficult getting to the SB that you might as well go for the money.

I can't imagine a team of advisors sitting around telling him go here for a chance to win a ring. Those advisors has a chance to get a nice check by him signing for $$$ and lots of $$$.

I also agree that unless you are a QB. Go for the money.

Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

I know where you're coming from but I wouldn't need advisors telling me crap at this point in my career. Whatever they've been telling him until now was bull anyway. Money is not everything in this life. Personal achievement is more important to me the older I get and it will be the same with him. I would rather pick a team that I thought had the greatest chance at the Superbowl toward the end of my career than pick one for the money and watch that other team win the Superbowl and me wanting to pay all the money in the world to have that feeling of winning the Superbowl.

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Re: You are Ndamukong Suh... what makes the most sense to do?
 

Defensive lineman have just as much chance to make it into the Hall of Fame as a QB. I've listed only the DT's and a combo, without just DE's and the QB's for comparison.

Modern Era DT's in the HOF:

Junious (Buck) Buchanan (DT) 1963-1975
Curley Culp 1968-1981
Richard Dent 1983-1997
Art Donovan (DT) 1950-1961
Joe Greene (DT) 1969-1981
Charles Haley 1986-1996; 1999
Dan Hampton (DT-DE) 1979-1990
Claude Humphrey 1968-1981
Henry Jordan (DT) 1957-1969
Cortez Kennedy (DT) 1990-2000
Bob Lilly (DT) 1961-1974
Leo Nomellini (DT) 1950-1963
Merlin Olsen (DT) 1962-1976
Alan Page (DT) 1967-1981
John Randle 1990-2003
Warren Sapp 1995-2007
Bruce Smith 1985-2003
Ernie Stautner (DT) 1950-1963
Michael Strahan 1993-2007
Arnie Weinmeister (DT) 1948-1953
Randy White (DT) 1975-1988
Reggie White (DT-DE) 1985-1998, 2000

Modern ERA QB's in the HOF

Troy Aikman 1989-2000
George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975
Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983
Len Dawson 1957-1975
John Elway 1983-1998
Brett Favre 1991-2010
Dan Fouts 1973-1987
Otto Graham 1946-1955
Bob Griese 1967-1980
Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974
Jim Kelly 1986-1996
Bobby Layne 1948-1962
Dan Marino 1983-1999
Joe Montana 1979-1994
Warren Moon 1984-2000
Joe Namath 1965-1977
Ken Stabler 1970-1984
Bart Starr 1956-1971
Roger Staubach 1969-1979
Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978
Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964
Johnny Unitas 1956-1973
Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960
Kurt Warner 1998-2009
Bob Waterfield 1945-1952
Steve Young 1985-1999

Only included modern era because I couldn't find a list of DT's prior to 1946 for either position. There is a list for QB's before 1946 but must are just listed as HB.

With this list in mind I would take 8 million for 2 years and have a 1/5 chance of winning the Superbowl over 12 million and a 1/25 chance.

If you had 4 million to spend wouldn't you spend it on a Superbowl Ring? Ask those players from Minnesota, Buffalo, Panthers, Falcons or Bengals. I bet they would do it. I knew an offensive guard who played for the Bengals and he lived in Nebraska after he retired. I talked to him one day when he was wearing his Superbowl ring. He said he was very proud to wear it but would much rather have the other one. He said it kinda jokingly but you could tell he really meant it.

Suh will always be remembered for stepping on people and his unprofessional treatment of players on the field unless he can propel himself to overcome that stigma and really become part of a team.