Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains

saintsfan1976 · 03-30-2018, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I don't see DE as a need unless it's an elite DE. Which I really don't see in the draft. Especially at #27. The good news is, on paper, the Saints are solid across the board except at WR and NT. Thomas needs a legit player opposite him and the defense needs a true space eating, block engaging, run stuffing NT.

I would consider a TE in our offense same as a WR. Agree on NT and expect us to nab BJ Hill in round 3. We also need depth on the D and O Line

jeanpierre · 03-30-2018, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I would consider a TE in our offense same as a WR. Agree on NT and expect us to nab BJ Hill in round 3. We also need depth on the D and O Line

A Big, Tall TE and a Big Tall WR, yes versus speedy quick slot back or super fast flanker...

Really liked taking BJ Hill early on, after the Senior Weekend, but starting to think we'd do better singing Hankins instead...

jeanpierre · 03-30-2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I don't see DE as a need unless it's an elite DE. Which I really don't see in the draft. Especially at #27. The good news is, on paper, the Saints are solid across the board except at WR and NT. Thomas needs a legit player opposite him and the defense needs a true space eating, block engaging, run stuffing NT.

Taven Bryan. He could play DE5, DT3, DT4, and play NT on passing downs...

K Major · 03-30-2018, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Taven Bryan. He could play DE5, DT3, DT4, and play NT on passing downs...

I'd take Bryan all day and twice on Sundays. Disruptive & can get in the backfield quickly. Day 1 starter.

Guess who some scouts compare him to? Cameron Jordan.

jeanpierre · 03-30-2018, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'd take Bryan all day and twice on Sundays. Disruptive & can get in the backfield quickly. Day 1 starter.

Guess who some scouts compare him to? Cameron Jordan.

Yeah, saw Z's comments on NFL.com - but, you know, Cam is more upright, boxes, hand fights like a fierce kangaroo...

Bryan, he's in your backpocket from the time the Center pulls the ball off the ground till he releases the snap...

K Major · 03-30-2018, 10:11 AM

Remember when Mel Kiper stated that San Diego would be reaching for DE Joey Bosa (2016 Def ROY) at 3 & Deforest Buckner would be a better fit for the Chargers defense?

This guy is closing his eyes and throwing darts, hoping for a bulls eye.

jeanpierre · 03-30-2018, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Remember when Mel Kiper stated that San Diego would be reaching for DE Joey Bosa (2016 Def ROY) at 3 & Deforest Buckner would be a better fit for the Chargers defense?

This guy is closing his eyes and throwing darts, hoping for a bulls eye.

What Kiper failed to realize it that San Diego (a) has a coach, not a system, and will mould their defense around their guys, and (b) Joey Bosa is a special player...

Still tickles me that he regraded Saints with an "A", not an "A+", despite Saints being only team winning OROTY AND DROTY since Detroit in 1967...

Have much props and respect for Kiper that he has contributed as much as anybody to the growth of popularity of the NFL Draft, carving out a niche for himself...

But he's an arrogant a$$hole by not admitting when he gets it wrong, even with his platform, job security to explain why he got it wrong and make it compelling news...

Barry from MS · 03-30-2018, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

What Kiper failed to realize...

Most sentences can start with this.

MarchingOn · 03-30-2018, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

What Kiper failed to realize it that San Diego (a) has a coach, not a system, and will mould their defense around their guys, and (b) Joey Bosa is a special player...

Still tickles me that he regraded Saints with an "A", not an "A+", despite Saints being only team winning OROTY AND DROTY since Detroit in 1967...

Have much props and respect for Kiper that he has contributed as much as anybody to the growth of popularity of the NFL Draft, carving out a niche for himself...

But he's an arrogant a$$hole by not admitting when he gets it wrong, even with his platform, job security to explain why he got it wrong and make it compelling news...

Wow, homeruns on all 4 points...err, TDs I mean

ChrisXVI · 03-30-2018, 10:29 AM

Plus for some reason completion percentage matters for Lamar Jackson but not Josh Allen.

03-30-2018, 09:56 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,059 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains Originally Posted by Cruize I don't see DE as a need unless it's an elite DE. Which I really don't see in the draft. Especially at #27. The good news is, on paper, the Saints are solid across the board except at WR and NT. Thomas needs a legit player opposite him and the defense needs a true space eating, block engaging, run stuffing NT. I would consider a TE in our offense same as a WR. Agree on NT and expect us to nab BJ Hill in round 3. We also need depth on the D and O Line MarchingOn likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains Originally Posted by Cruize I don't see DE as a need unless it's an elite DE. Which I really don't see in the draft. Especially at #27. The good news is, on paper, the Saints are solid across the board except at WR and NT. Thomas needs a legit player opposite him and the defense needs a true space eating, block engaging, run stuffing NT. Taven Bryan. He could play DE5, DT3, DT4, and play NT on passing downs... K Major likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains Originally Posted by jeanpierre Taven Bryan. He could play DE5, DT3, DT4, and play NT on passing downs... I'd take Bryan all day and twice on Sundays. Disruptive & can get in the backfield quickly. Day 1 starter. Guess who some scouts compare him to? Cameron Jordan. saintsfan1976 and jeanpierre like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains Originally Posted by K Major I'd take Bryan all day and twice on Sundays. Disruptive & can get in the backfield quickly. Day 1 starter. Guess who some scouts compare him to? Cameron Jordan. Yeah, saw Z's comments on NFL.com - but, you know, Cam is more upright, boxes, hand fights like a fierce kangaroo... Bryan, he's in your backpocket from the time the Center pulls the ball off the ground till he releases the snap... saintsfan1976 likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains Remember when Mel Kiper stated that San Diego would be reaching for DE Joey Bosa (2016 Def ROY) at 3 & Deforest Buckner would be a better fit for the Chargers defense? This guy is closing his eyes and throwing darts, hoping for a bulls eye. jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I would consider a TE in our offense same as a WR. Agree on NT and expect us to nab BJ Hill in round 3. We also need depth on the D and O Line A Big, Tall TE and a Big Tall WR, yes versus speedy quick slot back or super fast flanker... Really liked taking BJ Hill early on, after the Senior Weekend, but starting to think we'd do better singing Hankins instead...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Which defensive ends could Saints target after 1st round? Mel Kiper Jr. explains Originally Posted by K Major Remember when Mel Kiper stated that San Diego would be reaching for DE Joey Bosa (2016 Def ROY) at 3 & Deforest Buckner would be a better fit for the Chargers defense? This guy is closing his eyes and throwing darts, hoping for a bulls eye. What Kiper failed to realize it that San Diego (a) has a coach, not a system, and will mould their defense around their guys, and (b) Joey Bosa is a special player... Still tickles me that he regraded Saints with an "A", not an "A+", despite Saints being only team winning OROTY AND DROTY since Detroit in 1967... Have much props and respect for Kiper that he has contributed as much as anybody to the growth of popularity of the NFL Draft, carving out a niche for himself... But he's an arrogant a$$hole by not admitting when he gets it wrong, even with his platform, job security to explain why he got it wrong and make it compelling news... K Major and MarchingOn like this.
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