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SmashMouth 04-03-2018 06:35 AM

Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Lamar Jackson’s high school coach is retired now, having coached for 42 years. He has seen it all, including when Tommie Frazier ran wild in Bradenton, Florida, back in the early 1990s. He remembers the reaction to Jackson when he arrived at Boynton Beach High School in 2012, and he remembers it wasn’t always positive or fair.

“He got so much publicity,” Rick Swain says. “It’s a natural thing to resent. They resented him.”

“They” would be teammates and teachers. Not a majority; just a few. But enough so that Swain noticed.

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“I think everybody kinda wants to be him,” he said. “It’s a natural thing, when you have the accolades and the talent. He was pretty damn crazy amazing in high school.”

Swain describes a weird reaction to Jackson, a reluctance to believe what you see. There’s an effortless style to his game that is deceiving. Jackson came out for varsity football as a sophomore transfer and Swain didn’t have anything option-related in the offense except for maybe one play.

“We’d gone over stuff but never really run it,” he says. “When I saw him stick his foot in the ground, I went to my assistant and said, ‘Me and you are meeting right after practice.’ ”

The assistant did a double-take. Didn’t Swain swear by his tried-and-true Wing-T offense? He’s going to reboot it for this player?

“I love it,” he said, “but when you have something like this … ”

Swain went to pistol formation and four-wideout sets. He now had his own Tommie Frazier – except this kid could throw it 70 yards. A school that never sent a player to Division I when Swain arrived was about to export a player to Louisville to win the Heisman Trophy. And that wasn’t all; Swain says 21 of Jackson’s prep teammates went on to play some level of college football.

“Having Lamar exposed a lot of other players,” Swain says. “I don’t think they realized it [at the time].”

Now Swain is wondering if the NFL realizes what it has in Jackson. Once again there seems to be an uncertain reaction to him. While most of the quarterbacks coming out of college this year are projected optimistically, almost irrationally, Jackson hasn’t gotten that response. There was debate that he should play another position.

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darksoul35 04-03-2018 07:20 AM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Good article. I am high on this kid and would be happy if we drafted him but we are so close to a Super Bowl that I'm fine going with a piece to upgrade the defense.

rezburna 04-03-2018 07:22 AM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 797460)
Lamar Jackson’s high school coach is retired now, having coached for 42 years. He has seen it all, including when Tommie Frazier ran wild in Bradenton, Florida, back in the early 1990s. He remembers the reaction to Jackson when he arrived at Boynton Beach High School in 2012, and he remembers it wasn’t always positive or fair.

“He got so much publicity,” Rick Swain says. “It’s a natural thing to resent. They resented him.”

“They” would be teammates and teachers. Not a majority; just a few. But enough so that Swain noticed.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/YU...d823709437ed68

“I think everybody kinda wants to be him,” he said. “It’s a natural thing, when you have the accolades and the talent. He was pretty damn crazy amazing in high school.”

Swain describes a weird reaction to Jackson, a reluctance to believe what you see. There’s an effortless style to his game that is deceiving. Jackson came out for varsity football as a sophomore transfer and Swain didn’t have anything option-related in the offense except for maybe one play.

“We’d gone over stuff but never really run it,” he says. “When I saw him stick his foot in the ground, I went to my assistant and said, ‘Me and you are meeting right after practice.’ ”

The assistant did a double-take. Didn’t Swain swear by his tried-and-true Wing-T offense? He’s going to reboot it for this player?

“I love it,” he said, “but when you have something like this … ”

Swain went to pistol formation and four-wideout sets. He now had his own Tommie Frazier – except this kid could throw it 70 yards. A school that never sent a player to Division I when Swain arrived was about to export a player to Louisville to win the Heisman Trophy. And that wasn’t all; Swain says 21 of Jackson’s prep teammates went on to play some level of college football.

“Having Lamar exposed a lot of other players,” Swain says. “I don’t think they realized it [at the time].”

Now Swain is wondering if the NFL realizes what it has in Jackson. Once again there seems to be an uncertain reaction to him. While most of the quarterbacks coming out of college this year are projected optimistically, almost irrationally, Jackson hasn’t gotten that response. There was debate that he should play another position.

Read more on Yahoo Sports

If we have people who believe Taysom Hill can be the next Saints QB, then nobody should be doubting Jackson’s ability to do the same at an even higher level.

K Major 04-03-2018 08:44 AM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 797468)
If we have people who believe Taysom Hill can be the next Saints QB, then nobody should be doubting Jackson’s ability to do the same at an even higher level.

An "almost blocked punt" & a couple of s/t tackles does not make him a heir apparent to Brees. At best, he beats out Savage for a back up spot.

Joe Buck and Aikman took something Payton said last December and ran with it.

Beastmode 04-03-2018 08:57 AM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
He has more rushing yards than Barkley last two years. Maybe he will be the one that finally shows a running QB can have a long productive career in the NFL.

SaintFanInATLHELL 04-03-2018 09:46 AM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 797473)
He has more rushing yards than Barkley last two years. Maybe he will be the one that finally shows a running QB can have a long productive career in the NFL.

It's a fantasy to think a running QB can have a long productive career in the NFL. Defenses are simply too big and too fast to compete with on a consistent basis. Simply put passers are protected in the pocket, and runners are not.

That's why the most successful "running" QBs are the scramblers like Wilson and Rodgers. Use your legs to elude the rush, scramble when you have to, but operate with the primary plan of passing the ball.

All QBs in the NFL must first and foremost be rated on passing ability. If you cannot pass the ball, then nothing else matters.

SFIAH

Beastmode 04-03-2018 10:00 AM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
That was the joke.

Rugby Saint II 04-03-2018 02:34 PM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
I wish him well.....just not in New Orleans. :bng:

RockyMountainSaint 04-03-2018 02:44 PM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
I'm in for drafting him.

Race is the Elephant In The Room?
Can't be that when so many in sports journalism are obsessed with race.
It's blamed for EVERYTHING that doesn't fit the social justice agenda.

mikesaintfan 04-03-2018 04:18 PM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
i would like it if he can play a little WR while he is holding Brees clipboard for 2 years. Then he can take over. If he can't help this year, then we go TE or DE or WR.

dizzle88 04-03-2018 04:25 PM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Aikman and Buck took Paytons "ego boost" of Taysom Hill and tried to turn it into news worthy reporting.

What was Payton supposed to say? "Yeah we have a young guy behind Brees but he kinda sucks....."

Payton was obviously trying to give Hill a confidence boost, Aikman and Buck read far too much into that.

triman 04-03-2018 09:54 PM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Hill is a big fast athletic kid that check all the metrics boxes and maybe able to play QB in the NFL but he is a project that needs a lot of work to be starter ready. In today's NFL practice reps are too few and far between to be able to develop players that require lots of reps . I would not say it can't happen.BUT it ain't likely. Every one talks about making Lamar Jackson a WR? I would love to see hill play TE.
Jackson needs a coach willing to build his offensive game around his unique talents. It just so happens that Payton is the kind of coach that just might fit the bill.
I am not sure that drafting Jackson is the best use of our draft pick,however it would be fun to see how he could be used in the NFL and learning behind Brees would seem ideal place for him to learn his trade and work on his weaknesses to get ready to replace the irreplaceable.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2018 06:52 AM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan (Post 797538)
i would like it if he can play a little WR while he is holding Brees clipboard for 2 years. Then he can take over. If he can't help this year, then we go TE or DE or WR.

He has already said he would not consider ever playing anything but QB.

SmashMouth 04-04-2018 10:01 PM

Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect
 
Lamar Jackson, His Mother, and the Plan They’ve Always Had


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