Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect

SmashMouth · 04-03-2018, 06:35 AM

Lamar Jackson’s high school coach is retired now, having coached for 42 years. He has seen it all, including when Tommie Frazier ran wild in Bradenton, Florida, back in the early 1990s. He remembers the reaction to Jackson when he arrived at Boynton Beach High School in 2012, and he remembers it wasn’t always positive or fair.

“He got so much publicity,” Rick Swain says. “It’s a natural thing to resent. They resented him.”

“They” would be teammates and teachers. Not a majority; just a few. But enough so that Swain noticed.

“I think everybody kinda wants to be him,” he said. “It’s a natural thing, when you have the accolades and the talent. He was pretty damn crazy amazing in high school.”

Swain describes a weird reaction to Jackson, a reluctance to believe what you see. There’s an effortless style to his game that is deceiving. Jackson came out for varsity football as a sophomore transfer and Swain didn’t have anything option-related in the offense except for maybe one play.

“We’d gone over stuff but never really run it,” he says. “When I saw him stick his foot in the ground, I went to my assistant and said, ‘Me and you are meeting right after practice.’ ”

The assistant did a double-take. Didn’t Swain swear by his tried-and-true Wing-T offense? He’s going to reboot it for this player?

“I love it,” he said, “but when you have something like this … ”

Swain went to pistol formation and four-wideout sets. He now had his own Tommie Frazier – except this kid could throw it 70 yards. A school that never sent a player to Division I when Swain arrived was about to export a player to Louisville to win the Heisman Trophy. And that wasn’t all; Swain says 21 of Jackson’s prep teammates went on to play some level of college football.

“Having Lamar exposed a lot of other players,” Swain says. “I don’t think they realized it [at the time].”

Now Swain is wondering if the NFL realizes what it has in Jackson. Once again there seems to be an uncertain reaction to him. While most of the quarterbacks coming out of college this year are projected optimistically, almost irrationally, Jackson hasn’t gotten that response. There was debate that he should play another position.

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darksoul35 · 04-03-2018, 07:20 AM

Good article. I am high on this kid and would be happy if we drafted him but we are so close to a Super Bowl that I'm fine going with a piece to upgrade the defense.

rezburna · 04-03-2018, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Lamar Jackson’s high school coach is retired now, having coached for 42 years. He has seen it all, including when Tommie Frazier ran wild in Bradenton, Florida, back in the early 1990s. He remembers the reaction to Jackson when he arrived at Boynton Beach High School in 2012, and he remembers it wasn’t always positive or fair.

“He got so much publicity,” Rick Swain says. “It’s a natural thing to resent. They resented him.”

“They” would be teammates and teachers. Not a majority; just a few. But enough so that Swain noticed.

“I think everybody kinda wants to be him,” he said. “It’s a natural thing, when you have the accolades and the talent. He was pretty damn crazy amazing in high school.”

Swain describes a weird reaction to Jackson, a reluctance to believe what you see. There’s an effortless style to his game that is deceiving. Jackson came out for varsity football as a sophomore transfer and Swain didn’t have anything option-related in the offense except for maybe one play.

“We’d gone over stuff but never really run it,” he says. “When I saw him stick his foot in the ground, I went to my assistant and said, ‘Me and you are meeting right after practice.’ ”

The assistant did a double-take. Didn’t Swain swear by his tried-and-true Wing-T offense? He’s going to reboot it for this player?

“I love it,” he said, “but when you have something like this … ”

Swain went to pistol formation and four-wideout sets. He now had his own Tommie Frazier – except this kid could throw it 70 yards. A school that never sent a player to Division I when Swain arrived was about to export a player to Louisville to win the Heisman Trophy. And that wasn’t all; Swain says 21 of Jackson’s prep teammates went on to play some level of college football.

“Having Lamar exposed a lot of other players,” Swain says. “I don’t think they realized it [at the time].”

Now Swain is wondering if the NFL realizes what it has in Jackson. Once again there seems to be an uncertain reaction to him. While most of the quarterbacks coming out of college this year are projected optimistically, almost irrationally, Jackson hasn’t gotten that response. There was debate that he should play another position.

Read more on Yahoo Sports

If we have people who believe Taysom Hill can be the next Saints QB, then nobody should be doubting Jackson’s ability to do the same at an even higher level.

K Major · 04-03-2018, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If we have people who believe Taysom Hill can be the next Saints QB, then nobody should be doubting Jackson’s ability to do the same at an even higher level.

An "almost blocked punt" & a couple of s/t tackles does not make him a heir apparent to Brees. At best, he beats out Savage for a back up spot.

Joe Buck and Aikman took something Payton said last December and ran with it.

Beastmode · 04-03-2018, 08:57 AM

He has more rushing yards than Barkley last two years. Maybe he will be the one that finally shows a running QB can have a long productive career in the NFL.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-03-2018, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

He has more rushing yards than Barkley last two years. Maybe he will be the one that finally shows a running QB can have a long productive career in the NFL.

It's a fantasy to think a running QB can have a long productive career in the NFL. Defenses are simply too big and too fast to compete with on a consistent basis. Simply put passers are protected in the pocket, and runners are not.

That's why the most successful "running" QBs are the scramblers like Wilson and Rodgers. Use your legs to elude the rush, scramble when you have to, but operate with the primary plan of passing the ball.

All QBs in the NFL must first and foremost be rated on passing ability. If you cannot pass the ball, then nothing else matters.

SFIAH

Beastmode · 04-03-2018, 10:00 AM

That was the joke.

Rugby Saint II · 04-03-2018, 02:34 PM

I wish him well.....just not in New Orleans.

RockyMountainSaint · 04-03-2018, 02:44 PM

I'm in for drafting him.

Race is the Elephant In The Room?
Can't be that when so many in sports journalism are obsessed with race.
It's blamed for EVERYTHING that doesn't fit the social justice agenda.

mikesaintfan · 04-03-2018, 04:18 PM

i would like it if he can play a little WR while he is holding Brees clipboard for 2 years. Then he can take over. If he can't help this year, then we go TE or DE or WR.

04-03-2018, 06:35 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,987 Blog Entries: 29	Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect Lamar Jackson’s high school coach is retired now, having coached for 42 years. He has seen it all, including when Tommie Frazier ran wild in Bradenton, Florida, back in the early 1990s. He remembers the reaction to Jackson when he arrived at Boynton Beach High School in 2012, and he remembers it wasn’t always positive or fair. “He got so much publicity,” Rick Swain says. “It’s a natural thing to resent. They resented him.” “They” would be teammates and teachers. Not a majority; just a few. But enough so that Swain noticed. “I think everybody kinda wants to be him,” he said. “It’s a natural thing, when you have the accolades and the talent. He was pretty damn crazy amazing in high school.” Swain describes a weird reaction to Jackson, a reluctance to believe what you see. There’s an effortless style to his game that is deceiving. Jackson came out for varsity football as a sophomore transfer and Swain didn’t have anything option-related in the offense except for maybe one play. “We’d gone over stuff but never really run it,” he says. “When I saw him stick his foot in the ground, I went to my assistant and said, ‘Me and you are meeting right after practice.’ ” The assistant did a double-take. Didn’t Swain swear by his tried-and-true Wing-T offense? He’s going to reboot it for this player? “I love it,” he said, “but when you have something like this … ” Swain went to pistol formation and four-wideout sets. He now had his own Tommie Frazier – except this kid could throw it 70 yards. A school that never sent a player to Division I when Swain arrived was about to export a player to Louisville to win the Heisman Trophy. And that wasn’t all; Swain says 21 of Jackson’s prep teammates went on to play some level of college football. “Having Lamar exposed a lot of other players,” Swain says. “I don’t think they realized it [at the time].” Now Swain is wondering if the NFL realizes what it has in Jackson. Once again there seems to be an uncertain reaction to him. While most of the quarterbacks coming out of college this year are projected optimistically, almost irrationally, Jackson hasn’t gotten that response. There was debate that he should play another position. Read more on Yahoo Sports RockyMountainSaint and darksoul35 like this.

04-03-2018, 07:20 AM	#2
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,022	Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect Good article. I am high on this kid and would be happy if we drafted him but we are so close to a Super Bowl that I'm fine going with a piece to upgrade the defense. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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04-03-2018, 07:22 AM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,652	Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect Originally Posted by SmashMouth Lamar Jackson’s high school coach is retired now, having coached for 42 years. He has seen it all, including when Tommie Frazier ran wild in Bradenton, Florida, back in the early 1990s. He remembers the reaction to Jackson when he arrived at Boynton Beach High School in 2012, and he remembers it wasn’t always positive or fair. “He got so much publicity,” Rick Swain says. “It’s a natural thing to resent. They resented him.” “They” would be teammates and teachers. Not a majority; just a few. But enough so that Swain noticed. “I think everybody kinda wants to be him,” he said. “It’s a natural thing, when you have the accolades and the talent. He was pretty damn crazy amazing in high school.” Swain describes a weird reaction to Jackson, a reluctance to believe what you see. There’s an effortless style to his game that is deceiving. Jackson came out for varsity football as a sophomore transfer and Swain didn’t have anything option-related in the offense except for maybe one play. “We’d gone over stuff but never really run it,” he says. “When I saw him stick his foot in the ground, I went to my assistant and said, ‘Me and you are meeting right after practice.’ ” The assistant did a double-take. Didn’t Swain swear by his tried-and-true Wing-T offense? He’s going to reboot it for this player? “I love it,” he said, “but when you have something like this … ” Swain went to pistol formation and four-wideout sets. He now had his own Tommie Frazier – except this kid could throw it 70 yards. A school that never sent a player to Division I when Swain arrived was about to export a player to Louisville to win the Heisman Trophy. And that wasn’t all; Swain says 21 of Jackson’s prep teammates went on to play some level of college football. “Having Lamar exposed a lot of other players,” Swain says. “I don’t think they realized it [at the time].” Now Swain is wondering if the NFL realizes what it has in Jackson. Once again there seems to be an uncertain reaction to him. While most of the quarterbacks coming out of college this year are projected optimistically, almost irrationally, Jackson hasn’t gotten that response. There was debate that he should play another position. Read more on Yahoo Sports If we have people who believe Taysom Hill can be the next Saints QB, then nobody should be doubting Jackson’s ability to do the same at an even higher level. RockyMountainSaint, Papa Voodoo, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.

04-03-2018, 08:44 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect Originally Posted by rezburna If we have people who believe Taysom Hill can be the next Saints QB, then nobody should be doubting Jackson’s ability to do the same at an even higher level. An "almost blocked punt" & a couple of s/t tackles does not make him a heir apparent to Brees. At best, he beats out Savage for a back up spot. Joe Buck and Aikman took something Payton said last December and ran with it. dizzle88 and Rell&Gold like this.

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mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: Lamar Jackson's speed is blinding some to his promise as NFL draft prospect i would like it if he can play a little WR while he is holding Brees clipboard for 2 years. Then he can take over. If he can't help this year, then we go TE or DE or WR.