Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round

04-28-2018, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB.

Yes, except our main weakness remains stopping the run up the middle.

SmashMouth · 04-28-2018, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB.

The best talented team the Saints ever had was that 2011 team that could not scheme to stop Vernon Davis for two plays in that fateful playoff game. We may be close or better this time around too, but still need talent to fill depth, especially at OL. Let's see who they get today.

rezburna · 04-28-2018, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Lamar is amazing; For college. NFL, where has his style ever worked out? Start running around among superior athletes and they are going to send a clear message just like they always do. It will not be tolerated.

Now that we have a larger sample size we’ve seen Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick in recent Super Bowls. I don’t believe Jackson has any less issues with accuracy than a Newton or Kaepernick, and if you follow his college career he improved as a passer every year. He progressed through his reads, looked to pass first, and could fit it into some tight windows. NFL offenses are going to change the more and more they continue to let this style of QB in the league. At worse he’s Tyrod Taylor, and Taylor led that sorry Bills team to the playoffs. Of course, this is all just my own analysis.

jeanpierre · 04-28-2018, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

The best talented team the Saints ever had was that 2011 team that could not scheme to stop Vernon Davis for two plays in that fateful playoff game. We may be close or better this time around too, but still need talent to fill depth, especially at OL. Let's see who they get today.

Respectfully, I don't know that that was a scheme issue as I'm not sold on the talent nor the coaching at that time...

Our safeties were Malcolm Jenkins and Roman Harper...

While many rave about Harper and his ability to rush the passer, he couldn't cover; In fact, he was horrible in coverage.

Liken this thing with Harper to having a muscled-out Mustang that can't win a drag race but can competing in a light-duty class tractor pull...

Jenkins obviously excelled once he left New Orleans and arrived in Philly - Coaching Anyone?

Totally agree we currently just need some depth for the Defensive and Offensive Lines...

Not happy at all we invested two No. 1s in one player to get a starter; too much on one player and more Damn-It-Sean/Mickster Draft Foolishness...

K Major · 04-28-2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Not happy at all we invested two No. 1s in one player to get a starter; too much on one player and more Damn-It-Sean/Mickster Draft Foolishness...

Let it go man.

Sean has a vision for Marcus D ... much like he did to get Alvin Kamara.

If and when Davenport becomes a STUD, no one will care what was invested.

dizzle88 · 04-28-2018, 12:22 PM

Rick Leonard - Tackle

Converted DE and started 13 games for BC in 2017 at right tackle

Okay pick but another project.... we had a lot of injuries up front last year.

lee909 · 04-28-2018, 12:25 PM

The scouting report on nfl.com is terrible

Lacks fundamentals
Should land on a Practice squad

dizzle88 · 04-28-2018, 12:28 PM

This draft is reminding me of the 2014 one so far, a lot of picks on guys that have the words "raw, high upside and potential"

We know how that worked out, SJB, Davis tull etc

nola_swammi · 04-28-2018, 05:02 PM

Why when draft look like they drafted awful prospect the blame is on Payton but when it turn out to be a exceptional pick Ireland is the reason? :/

nola_swammi · 04-28-2018, 05:05 PM

I am gonna say it and will gladly eat my words if I am wrong. THESE DRAFT PICKS STINKS and I wont be surprise if all of them is out the league in 3 years. At least when Dikta trade every pick we still had Ricky Williams for some years and was able to trade him for a 1st rd pick to Miami.

04-28-2018, 01:30 AM	#121
Threaded by MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Beastmode On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB. Yes, except our main weakness remains stopping the run up the middle.
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04-28-2018, 07:04 AM	#122
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,045 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by Beastmode On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB. The best talented team the Saints ever had was that 2011 team that could not scheme to stop Vernon Davis for two plays in that fateful playoff game. We may be close or better this time around too, but still need talent to fill depth, especially at OL. Let's see who they get today. spkb25 likes this.

04-28-2018, 08:51 AM	#123
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,671	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by Beastmode Lamar is amazing; For college. NFL, where has his style ever worked out? Start running around among superior athletes and they are going to send a clear message just like they always do. It will not be tolerated. Now that we have a larger sample size we’ve seen Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick in recent Super Bowls. I don’t believe Jackson has any less issues with accuracy than a Newton or Kaepernick, and if you follow his college career he improved as a passer every year. He progressed through his reads, looked to pass first, and could fit it into some tight windows. NFL offenses are going to change the more and more they continue to let this style of QB in the league. At worse he’s Tyrod Taylor, and Taylor led that sorry Bills team to the playoffs. Of course, this is all just my own analysis. Crusader, Utah_Saint and darksoul35 like this.
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04-28-2018, 09:40 AM	#124
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by SmashMouth The best talented team the Saints ever had was that 2011 team that could not scheme to stop Vernon Davis for two plays in that fateful playoff game. We may be close or better this time around too, but still need talent to fill depth, especially at OL. Let's see who they get today. Respectfully, I don't know that that was a scheme issue as I'm not sold on the talent nor the coaching at that time... Our safeties were Malcolm Jenkins and Roman Harper... While many rave about Harper and his ability to rush the passer, he couldn't cover; In fact, he was horrible in coverage. Liken this thing with Harper to having a muscled-out Mustang that can't win a drag race but can competing in a light-duty class tractor pull... Jenkins obviously excelled once he left New Orleans and arrived in Philly - Coaching Anyone? Totally agree we currently just need some depth for the Defensive and Offensive Lines... Not happy at all we invested two No. 1s in one player to get a starter; too much on one player and more Damn-It-Sean/Mickster Draft Foolishness...
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04-28-2018, 10:33 AM	#125
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by jeanpierre Not happy at all we invested two No. 1s in one player to get a starter; too much on one player and more Damn-It-Sean/Mickster Draft Foolishness... Let it go man. Sean has a vision for Marcus D ... much like he did to get Alvin Kamara. If and when Davenport becomes a STUD, no one will care what was invested. AsylumGuido and WW_Who_Dat like this.

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04-28-2018, 12:22 PM	#126
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Rick Leonard - Tackle Converted DE and started 13 games for BC in 2017 at right tackle Okay pick but another project.... we had a lot of injuries up front last year.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,776 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round The scouting report on nfl.com is terrible Lacks fundamentals Should land on a Practice squad

04-28-2018, 12:28 PM	#128
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round This draft is reminding me of the 2014 one so far, a lot of picks on guys that have the words "raw, high upside and potential" We know how that worked out, SJB, Davis tull etc

04-28-2018, 05:02 PM	#129
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Why when draft look like they drafted awful prospect the blame is on Payton but when it turn out to be a exceptional pick Ireland is the reason? :/ Utah_Saint likes this.

04-28-2018, 05:05 PM	#130
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round I am gonna say it and will gladly eat my words if I am wrong. THESE DRAFT PICKS STINKS and I wont be surprise if all of them is out the league in 3 years. At least when Dikta trade every pick we still had Ricky Williams for some years and was able to trade him for a 1st rd pick to Miami.

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