Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round

04-27-2018, 07:59 AM

On record, I don't like the cost of the Marcus Davenport pick at all - But I'm a Saints fan, I'm on board...

I'll critique it with y'all once we have a body of NFL work by Davenport so this will likely be a three year discussion...

Davenport will be measured against other defensive linemen in this draft and we'll see if the costs of two No. 1s was worth the move...

But in light of Payton's defense of the pick by drawing on a National Debt analogy, I have no doubt in my mind now he's a Democrat/RINO...

That was probably the last thing Payton could've said to this fan to defend the pick though...

TheOak · 04-27-2018, 07:59 AM

Beyond the value assessment for the Saints, I enjoyed sitting there with my wife (telling the TV it will certainly not be a QB) while 80% of the talking heads (experts, including Mayok) on the panel were explaining why it would definitely be a QB (she’s looking at me like I’m a fool) and like a 1/2 time SuperBowl squib kick... Sean Payton shut hem up.

jeanpierre · 04-27-2018, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Beyond the value assessment for the Saints, I enjoyed sitting there with my wife (telling the TV it will certainly not be a QB) while 80% of the talking heads (experts, including Mayok) on the panel were explaining why it would definitely be a QB (she’s looking at me like I’m a fool) and like a 1/2 time SuperBowl squib kick... Sean Payton shut hem up.

In that, there was definitely personal solace in the pick, my friend...

jeanpierre · 04-27-2018, 08:14 AM

Guess I gotta get me some Bose...

lee909 · 04-27-2018, 08:33 AM

Come back nect March and ill give you a honest opinion on if i liked the pick

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2018, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

It's not the player I am disappointed about. Davenport is worth the 14th pick. I just hate the trade to get him. Green Bay traded up from 27th and gained a 7th rd pick and only lost a 3rd and 6th a four spot difference. Why couldn't saints offer 2019 2nd rd instead of a 1st?

Who's to say they didn't?

Beastmode · 04-27-2018, 08:38 AM

We are trying to fine tune a SB contender. QB does nothing for that effort. Freakin pundits.

Utah_Saint · 04-27-2018, 09:19 AM

I don't like giving up two firsts for one player. But then I didn't like giving up the next season's second for one player last year. And that worked out pretty well.

K Major · 04-27-2018, 09:27 AM

A lot of folks complained we didn't get a defensive end last year, some of the same folks complaining we got a defensive end this year. Saints needed a pass rusher in the worst way. Davenport is gonna be good. I dare say "special". I'm not buying the raw narrative. He competed in competitive 5A Texas High school ball, 4 years of college & was Def POY in his conference.

He'll be coached up, develop a few moves & has Cam as a mentor.

Super high ceiling & only 21. Looks like a dawg.

Danno · 04-27-2018, 09:30 AM

I get it, for several reasons
1. Win now, obviously

2. After Drew we should have a scary good defense (we'll need it)

3. He was the 2nd best DE in the draft

4. After the last couple of drafts, we are loaded with young talented prospects. Losing a draft pick doesn't hurt as much.

5. Our coaches know this kid, and his College coach well. We have a real good feel for his potential.

6. Our D-line coach, Ryan Nielson is notorious for developing young DL players

04-27-2018, 07:59 AM	#61
Threaded by jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39 Rating: (0 votes - average) On record, I don't like the cost of the Marcus Davenport pick at all - But I'm a Saints fan, I'm on board... I'll critique it with y'all once we have a body of NFL work by Davenport so this will likely be a three year discussion... Davenport will be measured against other defensive linemen in this draft and we'll see if the costs of two No. 1s was worth the move... But in light of Payton's defense of the pick by drawing on a National Debt analogy, I have no doubt in my mind now he's a Democrat/RINO... That was probably the last thing Payton could've said to this fan to defend the pick though... RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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04-27-2018, 07:59 AM	#62
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Beyond the value assessment for the Saints, I enjoyed sitting there with my wife (telling the TV it will certainly not be a QB) while 80% of the talking heads (experts, including Mayok) on the panel were explaining why it would definitely be a QB (she’s looking at me like I’m a fool) and like a 1/2 time SuperBowl squib kick... Sean Payton shut hem up. 73Saint, CharityMike and K Major like this.

04-27-2018, 08:01 AM	#63
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by TheOak Beyond the value assessment for the Saints, I enjoyed sitting there with my wife (telling the TV it will certainly not be a QB) while 80% of the talking heads (experts, including Mayok) on the panel were explaining why it would definitely be a QB (she’s looking at me like I’m a fool) and like a 1/2 time SuperBowl squib kick... Sean Payton shut hem up. In that, there was definitely personal solace in the pick, my friend... Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-27-2018, 08:14 AM	#64
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04-27-2018, 08:33 AM	#65
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04-27-2018, 08:36 AM	#66
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by nola_swammi It's not the player I am disappointed about. Davenport is worth the 14th pick. I just hate the trade to get him. Green Bay traded up from 27th and gained a 7th rd pick and only lost a 3rd and 6th a four spot difference. Why couldn't saints offer 2019 2nd rd instead of a 1st? Who's to say they didn't?

04-27-2018, 08:38 AM	#67
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04-27-2018, 09:19 AM	#68
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round I don't like giving up two firsts for one player. But then I didn't like giving up the next season's second for one player last year. And that worked out pretty well. Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-27-2018, 09:27 AM	#69
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round A lot of folks complained we didn't get a defensive end last year, some of the same folks complaining we got a defensive end this year. Saints needed a pass rusher in the worst way. Davenport is gonna be good. I dare say "special". I'm not buying the raw narrative. He competed in competitive 5A Texas High school ball, 4 years of college & was Def POY in his conference. He'll be coached up, develop a few moves & has Cam as a mentor. Super high ceiling & only 21. Looks like a dawg. turbo_dog, Crusader, ChrisXVI and 3 others like this.

04-27-2018, 09:30 AM	#70
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round I get it, for several reasons 1. Win now, obviously 2. After Drew we should have a scary good defense (we'll need it) 3. He was the 2nd best DE in the draft 4. After the last couple of drafts, we are loaded with young talented prospects. Losing a draft pick doesn't hurt as much. 5. Our coaches know this kid, and his College coach well. We have a real good feel for his potential. 6. Our D-line coach, Ryan Nielson is notorious for developing young DL players Crusader, foreverfan, Barry from MS and 5 others like this.

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