Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round

Danno · 04-27-2018, 10:31 AM

It should be noted that most of the negatives we're reading about Davenport are about what it cost us to acquire him, not whether or not he's a great pick for us.

I think the consensus is that we got a fantastic prospect at a crucial position which also happens to be a need for us.

We probably over-paid a little to get him, but thats certainly debatable.

Its my humble opinion that if we had numerous holes on our roster, we over-paid. But since we don't have glaring holes up and down this roster, we didn't over-pay.

Its the old Rebuild vs Re-load. We aren't rebuilding, we're re-loading and Davenport is a key piece of ammo.

ChrisXVI · 04-27-2018, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

It should be noted that most of the negatives we're reading about Davenport are about what it cost us to acquire him, not whether or not he's a great pick for us.

I think the consensus is that we got a fantastic prospect at a crucial position which also happens to be a need for us.

We probably over-paid a little to get him, but thats certainly debatable.

Its my humble opinion that if we had numerous holes on our roster, we over-paid. But since we don't have glaring holes up and down this roster, we didn't over-pay.

Its the old Rebuild vs Re-load. We aren't rebuilding, we're re-loading and Davenport is a key piece of ammo.

You make a great point here Danno. Nobody talks about the actual player but rather the trade compensation. I’m guilty as well. All the draft gurus had Davenport as a top 15 player but for some reason giving up next year’s 1st makes him lesser of a player it seems. I don’t know... I’m pretty conflicted still.

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2018, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

You make a great point here Danno. Nobody talks about the actual player but rather the trade compensation. I’m guilty as well. All the draft gurus had Davenport as a top 15 player but for some reason giving up next year’s 1st makes him lesser of a player it seems. I don’t know... I’m pretty conflicted still.

I don't see the issue with giving up a first rounder next season. As successful as I am expecting the Saints to be in 2019 that first rounder will be one pick prior to the first pick in the second round. Big deal.

Beastmode · 04-27-2018, 10:42 AM

We needed a pass rusher to get to the next level. Barely escaped Newton and co. then the Vikings faceplant. It was a problem. We over paid but so what. Have to do it sometimes. I totally overpaid for a Caddy but we love the car! All the bells and whistles that actually provide some cool features. If one wants that stuff immediately it's gonna cost. We paid it and nothing is saying it should not work out. He's not tapped for talent and not injured. He is also lined up with one of the best and good coaching. All +++'s. I can't think of any real negatives other not not getting a bargain but we got that last year so splurge a little. We blew up the draft last year. Almost NEVER happens. Time to come back to reality.

Danno · 04-27-2018, 11:06 AM

Also to note, the "experts" claimed that there were only about 15 or so players this year worthy of a 1st round grade.

We nabbed one of them.

TheOak · 04-27-2018, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Also to note, the "experts" claimed that there were only about 15 or so players this year worthy of a 1st round grade.

We nabbed one of them.

Certainly no one said there were any players worth TWO first round draft grades

#WWSPD

Danno · 04-27-2018, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Certainly no one said there were any players worth TWO first round draft grades

#WWSPD

Moving up is expensive.

AsylumGuido · 04-27-2018, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Certainly no one said there were any players worth TWO first round draft grades

#WWSPD

When those two picks are #27 and #32? I'd say #14 would be a good value.

Beastmode · 04-27-2018, 11:21 AM

On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB.

MarchingOn · 04-28-2018, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB.

Yes, except our main weakness remains stopping the run up the middle.

04-27-2018, 10:42 AM	#4
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round We needed a pass rusher to get to the next level. Barely escaped Newton and co. then the Vikings faceplant. It was a problem. We over paid but so what. Have to do it sometimes. I totally overpaid for a Caddy but we love the car! All the bells and whistles that actually provide some cool features. If one wants that stuff immediately it's gonna cost. We paid it and nothing is saying it should not work out. He's not tapped for talent and not injured. He is also lined up with one of the best and good coaching. All +++'s. I can't think of any real negatives other not not getting a bargain but we got that last year so splurge a little. We blew up the draft last year. Almost NEVER happens. Time to come back to reality. Danno, SmashMouth, frydaddy and 2 others like this.
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04-27-2018, 11:06 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Also to note, the "experts" claimed that there were only about 15 or so players this year worthy of a 1st round grade. We nabbed one of them. saintfan, Euphoria and 73Saint like this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by Danno Also to note, the "experts" claimed that there were only about 15 or so players this year worthy of a 1st round grade. We nabbed one of them. Certainly no one said there were any players worth TWO first round draft grades #WWSPD nola_swammi likes this.

04-27-2018, 02:28 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by TheOak Certainly no one said there were any players worth TWO first round draft grades #WWSPD Moving up is expensive.

04-27-2018, 05:03 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by TheOak Certainly no one said there were any players worth TWO first round draft grades #WWSPD When those two picks are #27 and #32? I'd say #14 would be a good value.

04-27-2018, 10:31 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round It should be noted that most of the negatives we're reading about Davenport are about what it cost us to acquire him, not whether or not he's a great pick for us. I think the consensus is that we got a fantastic prospect at a crucial position which also happens to be a need for us. We probably over-paid a little to get him, but thats certainly debatable. Its my humble opinion that if we had numerous holes on our roster, we over-paid. But since we don't have glaring holes up and down this roster, we didn't over-pay. Its the old Rebuild vs Re-load. We aren't rebuilding, we're re-loading and Davenport is a key piece of ammo. Crusader, foreverfan and ChrisXVI like this.

04-27-2018, 10:36 AM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by Danno It should be noted that most of the negatives we're reading about Davenport are about what it cost us to acquire him, not whether or not he's a great pick for us. I think the consensus is that we got a fantastic prospect at a crucial position which also happens to be a need for us. We probably over-paid a little to get him, but thats certainly debatable. Its my humble opinion that if we had numerous holes on our roster, we over-paid. But since we don't have glaring holes up and down this roster, we didn't over-pay. Its the old Rebuild vs Re-load. We aren't rebuilding, we're re-loading and Davenport is a key piece of ammo. You make a great point here Danno. Nobody talks about the actual player but rather the trade compensation. I’m guilty as well. All the draft gurus had Davenport as a top 15 player but for some reason giving up next year’s 1st makes him lesser of a player it seems. I don’t know... I’m pretty conflicted still.

04-27-2018, 12:42 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by ChrisXVI You make a great point here Danno. Nobody talks about the actual player but rather the trade compensation. I’m guilty as well. All the draft gurus had Davenport as a top 15 player but for some reason giving up next year’s 1st makes him lesser of a player it seems. I don’t know... I’m pretty conflicted still. I don't see the issue with giving up a first rounder next season. As successful as I am expecting the Saints to be in 2019 that first rounder will be one pick prior to the first pick in the second round. Big deal.

04-27-2018, 11:21 AM	#9
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB. skymike likes this.
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04-28-2018, 01:30 AM	#10
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round Originally Posted by Beastmode On paper, best Saints team to ever take the field IMO. Where is the weakness? Maybe depth on lines, LB's but everyone has that problem. Thinking we improve that with the remaining picks. Backup OL and a LB. Maybe a flyer QB or RB. Yes, except our main weakness remains stopping the run up the middle.

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