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SmashMouth 04-30-2018 11:16 AM

3 reasons the Saints should be excited about undrafted free agent J.T. Barrett
 
Former Ohio State quarterback J.T. Barrett wasn’t taken on the last day of the NFL Draft, but is getting a minicamp tryout with the Saints, the NFL chance that he needs.

Barrett is one of the most decorated quarterbacks in Ohio State and Big Ten history. He was the only three-time captain in school history, led the Buckeyes to two Big Ten titles in his four years, and set the school record with 38 victories and just six losses.

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He was a top 10 vote-getter in the Heisman Trophy race twice, with a fifth-place finish in 2014 after his freshman season was cut short after a torn ACL. Ohio State would go on to win the national championship that year.

Barrett might not be the best quarterback in the draft, but he’s still one that you can get excited about having on your roster. Whether that’s as a backup, or a future starter in the NFL.

He can make any play
Barrett owns the Big Ten passing touchdowns record with 104, and accumulated over 9,400 yards. He can sling the ol’ pigskin. But he was also effective on the ground when he needed to be.

Barrett had over 3,200 rushing yards during his Ohio State career, and 43 touchdowns. In three of his four seasons in Columbus he had at least 11 touchdowns on the ground.

One of his signature plays was his game-winning touchdown pass against Penn State this past season, after leading a comeback in the fourth quarter with the Buckeyes down 35-20.

The Buckeyes would go on to win that game 39-38. It wasn’t the prettiest game for Barrett and the Buckeyes, but as he did so many times, he led them back. It was not unlike other games in Barrett’s career where they might not have been the most easy thing to watch, but the Buckeyes would eventually come out on top.

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There’s not a spot he can’t get. It will always be good.
You may have heard before, but in the 2016 edition of The Game, the Buckeyes were faced with a crucial fourth down in overtime. Barrett took the snap, and heroically met a Michigan defender right at the first down marker.

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SmashMouth 04-30-2018 11:24 AM

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CheramieIII 04-30-2018 12:06 PM

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TAYSOM HILL

rezburna 04-30-2018 12:15 PM

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I think J.T. Barrett is a better Quarterback than Taysom Hill. He’s a better passer and smarter runner. This could be a steal.

SmashMouth 04-30-2018 12:21 PM

Re: 3 reasons the Saints should be excited about undrafted free agent J.T. Barrett
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 800823)
I think J.T. Barrett is a better Quarterback than Taysom Hill. He’s a better passer and smarter runner. This could be a steal.

Is he better than Lamar Jackson?

Halo 04-30-2018 12:23 PM

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Love the competition.

SmashMouth 04-30-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 800826)
Love the competition.

How does he compare on off the field issues?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._T._Barrett

But he did graduate early, almost two years ago.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/2016/12...hio_state.html


http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/spo...tt_838097.html

foreverfan 04-30-2018 12:50 PM

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We got a QB?

rezburna 04-30-2018 01:10 PM

Re: 3 reasons the Saints should be excited about undrafted free agent J.T. Barrett
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 800825)
Is he better than Lamar Jackson?

Not to me.

billyt81 04-30-2018 01:25 PM

Re: 3 reasons the Saints should be excited about undrafted free agent J.T. Barrett
 
Taysom Hill is the most exciting QB prospect the Saints have with the highest ceiling. Taysom Hill is one of the fastest Saints players period. He is 6"3, 225+ lbs. He is sensational running the football. He is aggressive and tough. He has a quick release and a strong arm. Plus Peyton loves him. JT Barret. Whatever. He won't make the team. I predict Hill wins the backup QB job. Savage-cut, Barret-practice squad.

SmashMouth 04-30-2018 02:45 PM

Re: 3 reasons the Saints should be excited about undrafted free agent J.T. Barrett
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 800823)
I think J.T. Barrett is a better Quarterback than Taysom Hill. He’s a better passer and smarter runner. This could be a steal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 800825)
Is he better than Lamar Jackson?

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 800834)
We got a QB?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 800841)
Not to me.


Well, his Wonderlic is higher than Lamar Jackson. and he did graduate early already 18 months ago.

2018 NFL Draft Class Wonderlic Test Scores – Take A Free Sample Wonderlic Test (50 or 25 Questions)

rezburna 04-30-2018 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 800843)
Taysom Hill is the most exciting QB prospect the Saints have with the highest ceiling. Taysom Hill is one of the fastest Saints players period. He is 6"3, 225+ lbs. He is sensational running the football. He is aggressive and tough. He has a quick release and a strong arm. Plus Peyton loves him. JT Barret. Whatever. He won't make the team. I predict Hill wins the backup QB job. Savage-cut, Barret-practice squad.

I hope so. You can’t coach 4.4 speed.

Barry from MS 04-30-2018 03:01 PM

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J.T. is a very, very interesting prospect. Dude just makes plays (1st downs & red zone).

He's not the fastest, biggest, most accurate, or have the biggest arm, but he just makes plays. High football IQ. He ran that Urban Meyer offense very well. I think he has a chance in this offensive system. A proven leader of good football teams in a talented conference.

What's not to like or to lose?

Seer1 04-30-2018 07:34 PM

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I watched him a great deal throughout his college career and what he does is win. Although from watching him and listening to the talk about him through that time, he's most likely not going to be Drew's replacement. He'll be parking in Pete Carmichael's spot in a few years instead. You may hate Urban Meyer, but it'd be a numbskull move to open your mouth to argue that he doesn't know what he's doing. He keeps saying that J.T. has the head coach gene like none other he's seen.

As far as off the field issues go, he had a run in for underaged drinking. Totally owned it right away, no blaming anyone else or getting it swept under the rug. He paid his penalty and willingly sat through his suspension coaching and encouraging his replacement all the way. He's got the heart of a Saint.

darksoul35 04-30-2018 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 800825)
Is he better than Lamar Jackson?

Hell No

frydaddy 04-30-2018 08:44 PM

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Lmao at all the blind optimism over Taysom Hill. Listen, he plays for us currently, and thus I hope for the best. But don't let two idiots (Aikman and Buck) misconstrued take fool you into thinking he's the future for sure. I love love love what he brought to special teams last year, but I would be shocked..I'm talking jaw on the floor in stunned silence if he manages to even beat out Savage for the number 2 spot. You don't let your QB of the future play gunner on special teams.

saintsfan1976 04-30-2018 08:47 PM

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Can he fix the things or is he another Tim Tebow?

It'll be fun to watch.

The Dude 04-30-2018 10:25 PM

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I really like what I read about this guy. Seems like Payton could build a great system around him using players we already have. I bet Payton would cream himself if he could get him to be a solid franchise Qb.
I would love to see what he could do with a dual threat QB.

What’s the knock on this guy? Why wasn’t he drafted?
Played for a good school in a decent conference and excelled.

CheramieIII 05-01-2018 05:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 800916)
Lmao at all the blind optimism over Taysom Hill. Listen, he plays for us currently, and thus I hope for the best. But don't let two idiots (Aikman and Buck) misconstrued take fool you into thinking he's the future for sure. I love love love what he brought to special teams last year, but I would be shocked..I'm talking jaw on the floor in stunned silence if he manages to even beat out Savage for the number 2 spot. You don't let your QB of the future play gunner on special teams.

Watch this and tell me it's blind. Taysom Hill would kick Barretts arse.


Career Stats for Taysom

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...om-hill-1.html

http://draftscout.com/ratings/dsprof...2017&genpos=QB

Notice the difference:


https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...barrett-1.html

http://draftscout.com/ratings/dsprof...2018&genpos=qb

TJ played 50 games and Taysom only 37

I'm not saying that TJ wouldn't be a good QB I'm saying that TJ has that little extra that changes games. Remember seeing him last year on special teams and how he would just shoot into the pile with no fear at all. I think TJ was brought in for more than just competition but Taysom will beat him out in the end. Coach loves Taysom and I think Taysom is a bit faster in the 40.

rezburna 05-01-2018 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 800929)
Watch this and tell me it's blind. Taysom Hill would kick Barretts arse.

Taysom Hill Career Highlights (2012-2016) - YouTube

Career Stats for Taysom

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...om-hill-1.html

Taysom Hill*|*Brigham Young,*QB*:*2017 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

Notice the difference:

J.T. Barrett Career Highlights || Every Touchdown (All 147) - YouTube

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...barrett-1.html

J.T. Barrett*|*Ohio State,*QB*:*2018 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

TJ played 50 games and Taysom only 37

I'm not saying that TJ wouldn't be a good QB I'm saying that TJ has that little extra that changes games. Remember seeing him last year on special teams and how he would just shoot into the pile with no fear at all. I think TJ was brought in for more than just competition but Taysom will beat him out in the end. Coach loves Taysom and I think Taysom is a bit faster in the 40.

Hill didn’t have a third of the career that Barrett had at Ohio State. Hill has horrible stats at BYU.

Taysom Hill: 6,269 yards. 58% completions. 43 TDs. 31 INTS

J.T. Barrett: 9,434 yards. 63.5% completions. 104 TDs. 30 INTS

We have to put some more respect on Barrett’s name.

ChrisXVI 05-01-2018 08:33 AM

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LMAO at people who would hate to have Lamar Jackson because he’s a running QB but then think Taysom Hill is the future.

K Major 05-01-2018 08:40 AM

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UDFA QB's (Taysom Hill) who play on special teams becoming good starting QB's ... pretty much never.

It will be interesting to watch this preseason but Hill is not the heir apparent unless he shows out in the next year or so.

lee909 05-01-2018 08:46 AM

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Could well be Savage on the cutting block come September.

Or one of the youngsters will be IRd

SmashMouth 05-01-2018 09:21 AM

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Meanwhile NE drafted an LSU QB, yes.... Danny Etling. I wonder what they see in him no one else sees.

Euphoria 05-01-2018 09:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 800909)
I watched him a great deal throughout his college career and what he does is win. Although from watching him and listening to the talk about him through that time, he's most likely not going to be Drew's replacement. He'll be parking in Pete Carmichael's spot in a few years instead. You may hate Urban Meyer, but it'd be a numbskull move to open your mouth to argue that he doesn't know what he's doing. He keeps saying that J.T. has the head coach gene like none other he's seen.

As far as off the field issues go, he had a run in for underaged drinking. Totally owned it right away, no blaming anyone else or getting it swept under the rug. He paid his penalty and willingly sat through his suspension coaching and encouraging his replacement all the way. He's got the heart of a Saint.

I watched a lot of him play to up here in Ohio and I can't say I was all that impressed. Yeah he won but I would say that was more of the team around him won those games. The simply have so much talent on every position its hard not to win games.

The one knock on him is that he has below average arm strenght.

Perhaps he can take Hill's spot so Hill can spend more time with the QB's now.

CheramieIII 05-01-2018 12:47 PM

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I would've taken Jackson in a heartbeat. I think he could've been a very good QB for many years. I love a QB that can run with authority and hence my favor of Hill. I've thought all along he will be the one sorta like Neo but only time will tell.

lee909 05-01-2018 12:59 PM

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Well the frint office obviously like him.
Just signed tbe kid to a three year deal

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voodooido 05-01-2018 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 800823)
I think J.T. Barrett is a better Quarterback than Taysom Hill. He’s a better passer and smarter runner. This could be a steal.

There is no way in hell JT is near Hill's level. I grew up in Ohio and still follow the hated Buckeyes closely. The dudes arm is pure trash. Ask any true OSU fan. They will tell you if not for him they would of won 3 straight championships.

CheramieIII 05-01-2018 02:48 PM

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J.T. Barrett - New Orleans Saints - 2018 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

The Dude 05-01-2018 03:14 PM

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I really don’t get why everyone is so high on Hill. Has he taken a snap at Qb for us? If he played last preseason he didn’t make an impression good enough for me to remember The only thing I know about Hill is that Payton keeps making a point my to say he is good. Almost too much of a point. Other than that I haven’t seen anything on him that leads me to believe he is any good at Qb. Other than “I heard”

rezburna 05-01-2018 03:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 800994)
There is no way in hell JT is near Hill's level. I grew up in Ohio and still follow the hated Buckeyes closely. The dudes arm is pure trash. Ask any true OSU fan. They will tell you if not for him they would of won 3 straight championships.

Hill has literally no statistics to back up this assertion.

K Major 05-01-2018 03:41 PM

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Training camp will put a lot of questions regarding Taysom, JT etc to rest. I remember G Grayson (many thought he was the heir apparent to Brees) looking like a deer in headlights when inserted a couple of camps ago. He was totally lost outside the pocket.

IMO both will have to show up and show out @ camp to take Savage spot @ #2. A very capable back up with NFL starter experience.

saintfan 05-01-2018 04:07 PM

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Ohio State QB J.T. Barrett signs with New Orleans Saints

foreverfan 05-01-2018 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 801005)
Training camp will put a lot of questions regarding Taysom, JT etc to rest. I remember G Grayson (many thought he was the heir apparent to Brees) looking like a deer in headlights when inserted a couple of camps ago. He was totally lost outside the pocket.

IMO both will have to show up and show out @ camp to take Savage spot @ #2. A very capable back up with NFL starter experience.

I'm afraid this is the deer in the headlight we will all find when Brees retires. It ain't going to happen in the draft. We can only hope that some proven QB wants to travel to New Orleans for Payton.


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Euphoria 05-01-2018 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 800994)
There is no way in hell JT is near Hill's level. I grew up in Ohio and still follow the hated Buckeyes closely. The dudes arm is pure trash. Ask any true OSU fan. They will tell you if not for him they would of won 3 straight championships.

See you and I watched the same games.

I don't recall the game but there was this great come from behind win but it was cause of him that put them way behind. lol. He just isn't consistant and fans were calling for him to be replaced a few times this past season... and every season reall.

CheramieIII 05-01-2018 04:27 PM

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The reason for the stat difference which I pointed out in an earlier post is because Hill only played 37 games while JT's stats were based on 50. That's an entire season folks.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...orleans-saints

Euphoria 05-01-2018 04:43 PM

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...and Hill has 4 tackles in the NFL already

JT hasn't even tied his shoe strings yet.

HILL is the next Guido Merkins.

darksoul35 05-01-2018 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 801014)
The reason for the stat difference which I pointed out in an earlier post is because Hill only played 37 games while JT's stats were based on 50. That's an entire season folks.

Ohio State QB J.T. Barrett signs with New Orleans Saints

You also have to look at the talent level on both teams. Ohio state is only next to Bama in recruiting talent. BYU isn't even in the same paragraph.

rezburna 05-01-2018 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 801014)
The reason for the stat difference which I pointed out in an earlier post is because Hill only played 37 games while JT's stats were based on 50. That's an entire season folks.

Ohio State QB J.T. Barrett signs with New Orleans Saints

We could go season by season. He never had a good year.

Cruize 05-01-2018 07:15 PM

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He's a winner. Brings athleticism to the position. I don't think he could have found a better spot. But, he's a practice squad guy at best in the NFL.


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