Saints cut fleecer

jeanpierre · 05-07-2018, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

He failed his physical.
Perhaps they don't want him scrambling his eggs while wearing a Saints helmet.
That probably wouldn't be a good look for the organization.
Just a guess.

In all seriousness, his concussion injury is still ongoing, sounds pretty seriousness and suspect it goes back to the cheap shot in training camp...

So if we're better folks than ATL, Philly, or New York fans, instead of bashing on him, we may want to maybe throw him a little love...

Besides, his signing was offered by Payton and the Mickster - so if you're throwing shade, let them share in it...

Rugby Saint II · 05-08-2018, 02:18 PM

I'm glad he's gone but I hope he's OK. For one thing if he picks up with another team they will pay some of our dead money I think.

When I saw him at training camp I was stunned! Fleener was the laziest looking player I have ever seen on the football field. He ran sloppy routes and was a major disappointment.

Swing and a miss.............better luck next time!

Papa Voodoo · 05-08-2018, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Somehow we went through free agency and the draft and ended up worse at the TE position.

I think it was a prudent move and showed anti-Fleener/Byrd/Galette actions that we didn't get in a bidding war with Green Bay for Graham.

Brate got overpaid too. We brought in Watson as a solid stop-gap. Hill and alphabet are still here. I expect the plan is that the TEs we brought in (Woz) will be developed to replace Watson next season and if not, look at FAs/draft next season.

AsylumGuido · 05-08-2018, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm glad he's gone but I hope he's OK. For one thing if he picks up with another team they will pay some of our dead money I think.

When I saw him at training camp I was stunned! Fleener was the laziest looking player I have ever seen on the football field. He ran sloppy routes and was a major disappointment.

Swing and a miss.............better luck next time!

That $8.2 million dead money remains dead. $4.8 million of it is signing bonus that has already been paid to Fleener. The remaining $3.4 million is the portion of the 2018 salary that became guaranteed on 2/7/2018. By declaring him a post 6/1 release $3.2 million (2019 and 2020 $1.6 million signing bonus prorated amounts) will count against the 2019 cap. If he had retired the Saints could have had grounds for retaining a portion.

WillSaints81 · 05-08-2018, 08:21 PM

I remember when some said. The playbook is complicated, it takes a season to understand it.....yeah tell that to Thomas, Kamara, and Ginn Jr.

RockyMountainSaint · 05-08-2018, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

In all seriousness, his concussion injury is still ongoing, sounds pretty seriousness and suspect it goes back to the cheap shot in training camp...

So if we're better folks than ATL, Philly, or New York fans, instead of bashing on him, we may want to maybe throw him a little love...

Besides, his signing was offered by Payton and the Mickster - so if you're throwing shade, let them share in it...

What about my post suggested anything about Fleener personally?

I meant that the team is protecting the player and the organization.

foreverfan · 05-08-2018, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I remember when some said. The playbook is complicated, it takes a season to understand it.....yeah tell that to Thomas, Kamara, and Ginn Jr.

When the play is designed for you, you have a way of remembering it.

SmashMouth · 05-09-2018, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

When the play is designed for you, you have a way of remembering it.

Wut?

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

When the play is designed for you, you have a way of remembering it.

That's the issue. Payton's offensive playbook is filled with plays that can be executed by any virtually player, regardless of position.

05-07-2018, 10:53 PM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints cut fleecer Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint He failed his physical. Perhaps they don't want him scrambling his eggs while wearing a Saints helmet. That probably wouldn't be a good look for the organization. Just a guess. In all seriousness, his concussion injury is still ongoing, sounds pretty seriousness and suspect it goes back to the cheap shot in training camp... So if we're better folks than ATL, Philly, or New York fans, instead of bashing on him, we may want to maybe throw him a little love... Besides, his signing was offered by Payton and the Mickster - so if you're throwing shade, let them share in it... saintsfan1976 and ChrisXVI like this.

05-08-2018, 02:18 PM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Saints cut fleecer I'm glad he's gone but I hope he's OK. For one thing if he picks up with another team they will pay some of our dead money I think. When I saw him at training camp I was stunned! Fleener was the laziest looking player I have ever seen on the football field. He ran sloppy routes and was a major disappointment. Swing and a miss.............better luck next time!

05-08-2018, 03:04 PM	#13
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Saints cut fleecer Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Somehow we went through free agency and the draft and ended up worse at the TE position. I think it was a prudent move and showed anti-Fleener/Byrd/Galette actions that we didn't get in a bidding war with Green Bay for Graham. Brate got overpaid too. We brought in Watson as a solid stop-gap. Hill and alphabet are still here. I expect the plan is that the TEs we brought in (Woz) will be developed to replace Watson next season and if not, look at FAs/draft next season.

05-08-2018, 03:46 PM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints cut fleecer Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'm glad he's gone but I hope he's OK. For one thing if he picks up with another team they will pay some of our dead money I think. When I saw him at training camp I was stunned! Fleener was the laziest looking player I have ever seen on the football field. He ran sloppy routes and was a major disappointment. Swing and a miss.............better luck next time! That $8.2 million dead money remains dead. $4.8 million of it is signing bonus that has already been paid to Fleener. The remaining $3.4 million is the portion of the 2018 salary that became guaranteed on 2/7/2018. By declaring him a post 6/1 release $3.2 million (2019 and 2020 $1.6 million signing bonus prorated amounts) will count against the 2019 cap. If he had retired the Saints could have had grounds for retaining a portion.

05-08-2018, 08:21 PM	#15
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints cut fleecer I remember when some said. The playbook is complicated, it takes a season to understand it.....yeah tell that to Thomas, Kamara, and Ginn Jr. foreverfan and SmashMouth like this.

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05-08-2018, 11:01 PM	#16
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Saints cut fleecer Originally Posted by jeanpierre In all seriousness, his concussion injury is still ongoing, sounds pretty seriousness and suspect it goes back to the cheap shot in training camp... So if we're better folks than ATL, Philly, or New York fans, instead of bashing on him, we may want to maybe throw him a little love... Besides, his signing was offered by Payton and the Mickster - so if you're throwing shade, let them share in it... What about my post suggested anything about Fleener personally? I meant that the team is protecting the player and the organization.

05-08-2018, 11:12 PM	#17
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints cut fleecer Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I remember when some said. The playbook is complicated, it takes a season to understand it.....yeah tell that to Thomas, Kamara, and Ginn Jr. When the play is designed for you, you have a way of remembering it.

05-09-2018, 12:04 AM	#18
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints cut fleecer Originally Posted by foreverfan When the play is designed for you, you have a way of remembering it. Wut?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints cut fleecer Originally Posted by foreverfan When the play is designed for you, you have a way of remembering it. That's the issue. Payton's offensive playbook is filled with plays that can be executed by any virtually player, regardless of position.

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