Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied)

TheOak · 05-09-2018, 05:36 AM

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake.

I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality.

Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look.

SmashMouth · 05-09-2018, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Wtf Mark? Hey I'm not gonna hide. I was just complaining about all the hate on him. I still think he's a great back. I'm upset about the PEDS ****, but I can forgive that. But the contract talk post suspension is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

This should end any debate over a high dollar, long term contract for Ingram.

Just say no.

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Dayum! After I was thinking the plan was to get our 1st rd pick back or at least a 2nd rd pick after the season on a trade, this happen! GOOD LUCK ON CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

Originally Posted by TheOak

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake.

I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality.

Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look.

Originally Posted by lee909

I wouldn't have been giving him a big paid contract after this year anyway. RB is pretty easy to get players in. Why pay big money for a man just about to enter his 30s. Get soneone young,hungry and cheap with luttle wear on them

He just lost 25% of his $ on his current contract... about $1 million.

Hope the Saints don't make a mistake here.

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake.

I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality.

Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look.

This is what I am talking about. First, there were no bounty programs. Twenty-six Saints players and coaches testified to that fact in District Court in Jonathon Vilma's Suit against Goodell and the league? Did you forget about that? There was a simple performance pool only, that was common in every defensive locker room in the league. There were, at the time, no rules against such a thing.

And where did you come up with three Saints being suspended for PED use in the past three years? To begin with, Snead was suspended for a DUI. It had nothing to do with PED's. Try including at least something resembling facts in your idiotic claims.

TheOak · 05-09-2018, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number.

It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something.

Have a great day.

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number.

It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something.

Have a great day.

You implied that Vaccaro, Snead and Ingram's performances were due to PED use. That is crap. Vaccaro got hit for Adderall during the season. That isn't something you take to affect your regular season play. He said he took it to stay alert while attending his brother's game on a Saints bye week. He was wrong, but it wasn't anything you can ever get away with to "enhance performance" on the field.

You did admit you were wrong about Snead. The jury is still out on what triggered the Ingram violation.

And, you are still misrepresenting the whole deal with the performance pool being trumped up by Goodell to appear to be something vile. Yes, that does raise my ire a bit.

WillSaints81 · 05-09-2018, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number.

It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something.

Have a great day.

He supports everything the saints FO and what the team does in games and no fan opinion even matters to him.

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

He supports everything the saints FO and what the team does in games and no fan opinion even matters to him.

Uneducated, misdirected and faulty fan opinions clearly do not matter to me.

WillSaints81 · 05-09-2018, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake.

I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality.

Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look.

Truer words have never been spoken.

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Truer words have never been spoken.

LOL!

05-09-2018, 05:36 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake. I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality. Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look.

05-09-2018, 06:51 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,796 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by jnormand Wtf Mark? Hey I'm not gonna hide. I was just complaining about all the hate on him. I still think he's a great back. I'm upset about the PEDS **, but I can forgive that. But the contract talk post suspension is ridiculous. Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint This should end any debate over a high dollar, long term contract for Ingram. Just say no. Originally Posted by nola_swammi Dayum! After I was thinking the plan was to get our 1st rd pick back or at least a 2nd rd pick after the season on a trade, this happen! GOOD LUCK ON CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. Originally Posted by TheOak This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake. I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality. Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look. Originally Posted by lee909** I wouldn't have been giving him a big paid contract after this year anyway. RB is pretty easy to get players in. Why pay big money for a man just about to enter his 30s. Get soneone young,hungry and cheap with luttle wear on them He just lost 25% of his $ on his current contract... about $1 million. Hope the Saints don't make a mistake here.

05-09-2018, 06:54 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by TheOak This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake. I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality. Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look. This is what I am talking about. First, there were no bounty programs. Twenty-six Saints players and coaches testified to that fact in District Court in Jonathon Vilma's Suit against Goodell and the league? Did you forget about that? There was a simple performance pool only, that was common in every defensive locker room in the league. There were, at the time, no rules against such a thing. And where did you come up with three Saints being suspended for PED use in the past three years? To begin with, Snead was suspended for a DUI. It had nothing to do with PED's. Try including at least something resembling facts in your idiotic claims. jeanpierre likes this.
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05-09-2018, 07:49 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number. It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something. Have a great day.

05-09-2018, 08:25 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by TheOak You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number. It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something. Have a great day. You implied that Vaccaro, Snead and Ingram's performances were due to PED use. That is crap. Vaccaro got hit for Adderall during the season. That isn't something you take to affect your regular season play. He said he took it to stay alert while attending his brother's game on a Saints bye week. He was wrong, but it wasn't anything you can ever get away with to "enhance performance" on the field. You did admit you were wrong about Snead. The jury is still out on what triggered the Ingram violation. And, you are still misrepresenting the whole deal with the performance pool being trumped up by Goodell to appear to be something vile. Yes, that does raise my ire a bit.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

05-09-2018, 09:24 AM	#6
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by TheOak You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number. It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something. Have a great day. He supports everything the saints FO and what the team does in games and no fan opinion even matters to him.

05-09-2018, 09:26 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by WillSaints81 He supports everything the saints FO and what the team does in games and no fan opinion even matters to him. Uneducated, misdirected and faulty fan opinions clearly do not matter to me.

05-09-2018, 09:16 AM	#8
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by TheOak This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake. I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality. Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look. Truer words have never been spoken.

05-09-2018, 09:21 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Truer words have never been spoken. LOL!

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