Beastmode

One point I heard is that if the PED that was in his system, how much of of factor was that last year? He's not a young man. His touches also declined there right at the end.

All I know is we have done extremely well drafting as of late so what is best in life looking down the road? If BS or West work out really have to consider getting something for MI right now. We won't get much but, start building picks up to get back in the 1st.

K Major

The Saints aren't trading Ingram my friend.

AsylumGuido

No kidding. But, that's something that Beastmode has brought up on multiple occasions, regardless of how little sense it would make. You don't get rid of one of your very best players when you are poised to win it all right now.

AsylumGuido

If there was actually performance enhancing substances in his body during the season he would have been nailed by the numerous tests that the players receive throughout the season.

To clarify things, there are two different categories of failed tests. The first is for substance abuse (ie. pot or other illegal drugs). Everything else, performance enhancing or not, falls into the PED category. A missed test is classified as a PED failure. A diluted sample as compared to the baseline is a failed PED test. Any trace of common over-the-counter ingredients is classified as a PED failure.

Ingram's agent claims the substance that triggered the failed test had no performance enhancing properties and, in fact, was a substance that would have been deemed permissible if prescribed and cleared by a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE). This includes fertility medications and hair growth products, among others. Indication from four separate Saints players, including Zach Strief, is that Ingram's failed test resulted from a tainted batch of a normally approved supplement. That is why his team fought it so vehemently. The Patriots actually test all supplements prior to the player's use regardless of its league approved status. Perhaps the Saqinhts should begin doing the same.

And why the hell would we trade our best all-round RB when we are in a win it now mode? That make no sense whatsoever. Ingram worked all off-season with an expert on route running and speed. He is our most experienced offensive skill player (besides Brees) with the offense.

Anyone trying to claim that the minute trace of non-performance enhancing substance found after the season was over had anything to do with Ingram's success this past season is an idiot.

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