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The Panthers' top hope was that South Carolina WR Troy Williamson would somehow fall into their laps. Thomas Davis was their No. 2 target, despite teams attempting to leapfrog them for his services.

So basically we gave away a 3rd rounder? :doh:

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I believe we threw away a 3rd rounder, yeah.

-ps------

Even disregarding that, the trade is not equitable in value. The only way the trade works out fairly for the Saints is if they finish in the top 8 teams next year, no less than that. If they do not finish in the top 8, then they lost value points on the deal.

[Edited on 27/4/2005 by LordOfEntropy]

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Great move. :casstet:

Hopefully Brown will go to 10 pro bowls here in New Orleans before his career is over. That will help me forget. ;)

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the only problem I have with brown is that next year\'s OT class is so much better that brown would probably go in the second or third...D\'Brick, mcneil among others are coming out.

and I think Terry and roos are pretty good..that said-brow helps us now...and that is a good thing.

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Hey, we get a starting RT this yearm and a starting LT next year, right about when Gandy should be out of here. Of course there is the learnign curve, but Bent, Brown, Holland, Stinch, and whoever we draft would all be young. Plus, next year is deep in LBs too. We could get two immediate help players. Trying to be positive here. :cool:

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who would have been disappointed if they took alex barron at #16 if brown would have been gone? anyone? until a week ago barron was the consensus top OT. but i can understand after just missing on vilma/williams and roberston the year before.

that is quite a nice positive thought who. i think even if the house falls down this year that bentley and brown will stand. another top rookie with those would be a strong trench nucleus if a rebuild job at the skill positions was needed.

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Thanks Kell. I am trying to get over my draft shell shock and spin it a better way. You and I are always talking about what\'s best for the future of this team, well even if Haz fails miserably again next year, once he is gone the O-line will at least be a strength, and it all starts there. And we have good depth. One outstanding LT and damn, we could rival the Roaf-Turley days.

And no I would not have been mad if we had stayed put and taken Barron. But positive spin, positive spin.

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I really like the Brown pick, so don\'t think I am saying that but....... Khalif Barnes didn\'t get picked until the 52nd pick. So it makes me wonder if we could have selected TDavis, and then gotten Barnes later on. I know he\'s not as good as Brown, and I really am pumped to see Brown on our line next year, but everybody said before the draft that Barnes was first round material and that he could have been selected above Barron.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...ory?id=2044572

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Unless we would have picked DJ we threw away the 3rd rounder. Lets face it at 16 even if someone would have picked Brown we could have gotten Barron. I know its early to speculate but I am having a hard time thinking that the difference between those 2 is a 3rd rounder. Both will make pretty good pros but only time will tell which one is the best.
On another note one constant with the Saints -- in the last few years they have neer selected the guy in the first round I wanted -- Sometimes they were right (Deuce) sometimes wrong (Sullivan). I still remember that we picked George Rodgers when we could have had LT>

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I\'m not inclined to think that this is an accurate account of what the Panthers were going to do or even wanted.

Our FO thought they weren\'t going to get their guy. They gambled and went balz out to get him. I can understand being frustrated with the result, but at least they were making move to get what they wanted and thought they needed.

Papz, do you have a link for that? Is there reason to think the Panthers wouldn\'t lie. They took a long time to make that pick, that shouldn\'t have been the case if Thomas was there 2nd - he was there.

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I agree, JK, not only was their alleged 2nd choice there, but their alleged 1st choice had been gone a while. They should have been more than ready to pick if that was the case. Although, I readily admit there are other factors that could have caused them to use up their time.

Sounds to me like the Panthers\' FO didn\'t want to appear as if they got shafted by Loomis for their 1st choice. I was listening to sporting news radio during the draft and they immediately aid that Brown was who the Panthers were after.

They\'re a bunch of seroid using liars so I\'m not suprised they\'d try to cover it up.

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Frick I forgot where I got it... I think it was si.com. I think it was under today\'s date for truths and rumors. I wouldn\'t see a reason why they would lie about it for though... remember they are moving Gross back to right tackle this year because he just wasn\'t suited for left tackle. So if they were to draft Brown they would have two right tackles.


[Edited on 28/4/2005 by papz]

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I have to back papz up on this one. I read that report too that they were moving Gross back to RT. Really makes no sense for them to draft Brown if that is the case. Said they wer emoving him back cause he isn\'t yet suited for LT. Maybe they will use that guy Wahle they got from GB as a T, even though he played guard and was a pro bowler in GB.

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I wasn\'t calling you out guys. I\'m just saying that I don\'t have a lot of faith in such reports. I\'m sure teams play close to their chests and lie to their fans, etc. We of all people should know that.

That report about moving Gross came out after the draft as I recall.

Also, having an RT isn\'t reason to not draft another one. I recall it reported that some people think that Brown can play LT too.

Either way, I don\'t think it is worth getting MORE upset due to this report - it just isn\'t doing it for me. However, I understand your feelings, and I am not calling them out or putting them down.

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I like the move/pick... only time will tell if it pays off. I don\'t see us getting much with a 3rd next year anyways... and we vastly needed help on that line.

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The thing is guys, regardless of the move, the Saints still have a starter in Brown. Like Whodi said, at least our o-line is set for a few years.

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jnormand, I completely agree.

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True will still got a quality lineman out of it anyways... :D Who cares if we juked the Panthers or not... we got our number 1 rated player. It\'s just the 3rd rounder next year that bothers me. It seems like it\'s also going to be a deep draft next year :(

Actually with the strength and conditioning in which these college players are going through nowadays, the athletes entering the pro drafts are ridiculous. Draft picks are worth way more than they use to be... hopefully we\'ll be able to re-acquire a pick somewhere. Hey ya never know we might franchise Howard next year and trade him for a second rounder after he gets another 10 sacks this year... ;)

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Ditka also left us set at O line & RB...

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Now don\'t let people fool you... next year\'s draft isn\'t going to be as deep as this years. This was on of the deepest drafts in years that doesn\'t happen every year... nor will it happen next year.

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I think Brown will be great. I know the Saints really didn\'t do much in the draft or FA to aquire a star lineman or LB, but hey, with a great line for Deuce to run behing, hopefully the D won\'t be out there that long. I think the D will be improved this year anyway. I know Haz likes \"maulers\". I think thats why he wanted Brown over Barron. The same reason he liked Bentley. He likes guys with a mean streak.

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Was it really a good move?

The pick, yes.
The trade, no.