Rookie tackle Rick Leonard's familiarity with Saints offensive line dates back to Florida State days

AsylumGuido · 05-18-2018, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Guido, it's really not about my personal board. I'll gladly subdue my ego to get past that point to have an on-point discussion...

Those that know me personally know I won't hesitate to fall on my sword so that all may have the truth...

The NFL rating service even had him at a R7-FA grade as well which NFL.com basically bases their information off of...

But, whether you want to disagree or not with those far more recognized folks; this is a player who's only played a year and a half as an offensive lineman, and not with stand-out performances...

Look Payton is a gambler and a showman and has the ego in-tow to boot and I love the Saints as much as anyone and love that he's like that on game day...

Even when he's calling double reverses...

But when it comes to building a team, just wish he and Mickey would defer to Ireland's "calm and disciplined influence" and actually let it have the most weight...

Didn't expect the same haul we had last year, but was hoping for the same approach...

I'm not so proudful that I want Davenport and/or Leonard to bust...

I want them to be great Saints and I've checked much of my pessimism and criticism a great deal on their outlooks in my posts in hopeful anticipation that I'm wrong about their prospects in the Fall...

Either way that works out, when it comes to the Draft, Payton reaches - period. And his moves fail far more often than not and is the single biggest handicap to this team's success...

Of course, I hope you are wrong in your fears, but how do you know that it wasn't Ireland that gave the "go ahead" in this case? Perhaps they all saw something there that the NFL rating service doesn't take into consideration. Perhaps they see him less as a long term project and more as a solid contributor for the 53 man roster in 2018 that can quickly advance to allowing for the eventual exit of the oft injured Armstead via a move of Ramczyk to LT? Payton himself mentioned the use of variables in the evaluation process that others are not currently using. And how much does Strief's ready availability factor into the decision, as well? That too can quicken any process and shorten the curve.

Let's see wait and see how the perceived "reach" turns out "post Ireland".

05-18-2018, 04:01 PM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Rookie tackle Rick Leonard's familiarity with Saints offensive line dates back to Florida State days Originally Posted by jeanpierre Guido, it's really not about my personal board. I'll gladly subdue my ego to get past that point to have an on-point discussion... Those that know me personally know I won't hesitate to fall on my sword so that all may have the truth... The NFL rating service even had him at a R7-FA grade as well which NFL.com basically bases their information off of... But, whether you want to disagree or not with those far more recognized folks; this is a player who's only played a year and a half as an offensive lineman, and not with stand-out performances... Look Payton is a gambler and a showman and has the ego in-tow to boot and I love the Saints as much as anyone and love that he's like that on game day... Even when he's calling double reverses... But when it comes to building a team, just wish he and Mickey would defer to Ireland's "calm and disciplined influence" and actually let it have the most weight... Didn't expect the same haul we had last year, but was hoping for the same approach... I'm not so proudful that I want Davenport and/or Leonard to bust... I want them to be great Saints and I've checked much of my pessimism and criticism a great deal on their outlooks in my posts in hopeful anticipation that I'm wrong about their prospects in the Fall... Either way that works out, when it comes to the Draft, Payton reaches - period. And his moves fail far more often than not and is the single biggest handicap to this team's success... Of course, I hope you are wrong in your fears, but how do you know that it wasn't Ireland that gave the "go ahead" in this case? Perhaps they all saw something there that the NFL rating service doesn't take into consideration. Perhaps they see him less as a long term project and more as a solid contributor for the 53 man roster in 2018 that can quickly advance to allowing for the eventual exit of the oft injured Armstead via a move of Ramczyk to LT? Payton himself mentioned the use of variables in the evaluation process that others are not currently using. And how much does Strief's ready availability factor into the decision, as well? That too can quicken any process and shorten the curve. Let's see wait and see how the perceived "reach" turns out "post Ireland".
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