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Position Battles - Who Wins?
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; You never know how much playing time a rookie is going to get. Our first round draft picks alwasys seem to see a lot of playing time. But, beyond the first round picks, our rookies usually don't recieve a lot ...
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04-30-2005, 02:28 PM
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You never know how much playing time a rookie is going to get. Our first round draft picks alwasys seem to see a lot of playing time.
But, beyond the first round picks, our rookies usually don't recieve a lot of playing time. (i.e. Stinchcomb, Devery Henderson) Although, I guess Montre Holland, Courtney Watson and Le Charles Bentley might suggest otherwise. None of those guys were first round picks. I'm feeling pretty confident some of our rookies might be the starters from day one. Here's some interesting battles I think will be going on before the start of the season. On defense: DE - Will Smith vs. Darren Howard MLB - Courtney Watson vs. Alfred Fincher DT - Howard Green vs. Jonathan Sullivan WLB - Derrick Rodgers vs. Colby Bockwoldt SS - Jay Bellamy vs. Josh Bullocks On offense: Wayne Gandy vs. Stinchcomb That's the battles I see in training camp. There may be some others??? |
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04-30-2005, 03:19 PM
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DE - Howard (if he\'s here)
MLB - ???? I\'d like to see Fincher in uniform first DT - Green WLB - Buckwoldt SS - Bellamy LT - ??? gotta see how stinch looks, but I\'m pulling for him. |
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04-30-2005, 03:45 PM
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It seems to me that these camp battles are a little far off to make good predictions (or even guesses). It isn\'t clear to me that guys like Bullocks will even be battling for the positions you are suggesting (it is not clear that Bullocks is in line for a SS position, and I think that Fincher is well built to play SLB too, among others).
Judging on merely scouting reports and the play of guys I\'ve seen on the field (and assuming we keep Howard), here is my best guess at a starting line up: Offense QB - Brooks RB - McAllister FB - Karney TE - Williams WR - Horn WR - Stallworth LT - Gandy LG - Holland C - Bentley RG - Mayberry RT - Brown (I\'m salivating about our line already.) Believable shake-ups: 1. Stinchcomb replaces Gandy, as we have to cut Gandy to make cap room, 2. Henderson for Stallworth, as Stallworth is injured in pre-season. Defense: CB - Brown CB - McKenzie FS - Smith SS - Bellamy WLB - Watson MLB - Fincher SLB - Hodge DE - Smith DE - Grant DT - Young DT - Green Believeable adjustments: 1. Watson at MLB, Colby at WLB, and Allen at SLB, I think Hodge can still beat out Allen - we was in the dog house, but boy Hodge covers so much better than Allen, 2. Jefferson over Green, we are so weak there, anyone can win that battle, 3. Bullocks for Bellamy, as we switch to a Left-Right instead of Free-Strong at Safety or Bellamy deteriorates at an unexpected rate, 4. Ruff at MLB, Watson at SLB, and Bockwoldt at WLB, Fincher comes in for Ruff at about mid-season. I guess, the hardest positions to call are the LB positions (all three) as there may be major movement here - I suspect that some players may move around - and the DT position. We are simply so weak after Young that pretty well anyone could emerge there. I will cross my fingers for Sully to finally show up, but I\'m not going to hold my breath. |
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04-30-2005, 07:52 PM
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D Howard
A Fincher H Green C Bockwoldt J Bellamy W Gandy |
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04-30-2005, 11:49 PM
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I think this year..we may see not only alot of different starters..but..alot of changes mid year as well...
I look for Stichcomb to challenge Holland...I know He\'s a guard..but..I\'m not sure if Stinchcomb can totally be counted on YET to fill the LT position...I do hope he gets some time in...but I think he may be our Guard on the left side... The LB corps are totally unpredictable...I mean..we have Fincher...Fisher...and a few other guys who turned heads last year...and..it\'s not impossible to think that some of our Vets will step it up more..and win thier spots back..like Ruff..and Hodge..I really think this will be the spot we see alot of changing in as the season progresses...I do think however, that Fincher will start for us at some spot on LB year round...I\'m really excited about his potential...Watson will start as well, at least at some point in the year...that really leaves Hodge and Buckwoldt battling it out for a spot...I think Hodge has it to lose...and Buckwoldt will give him a run for it..and maybe scoot him out by week 5 or sooner... Howard and Smith will do much of the same things they did last year...switching out..and giving us options that other teams just don\'t have..so I\'m happy about that too... I don\'y know how much of a push Bullocks will give Bellamy...IF he does win a spot..this will be a awesome draft...Although, I\'m not sure if he has the hitting power to play SS in the NFL..maybe in 2 or 3 years... I\'m also wondering about our TE situation...Williams has had the chance, and has had modest success..and Mili has proven he can play in Seattle..both should get playing time..and I\'m not sure if we will have a proclaimed \'\'starter\'\' on that position...both can do different things well..I guess it depends on which one can get the most production with the time they are given...I predict Williams will be riding the pine more often than not... Guys...we have the Depth...we have the skill players..we have the youth, and the speed...not to mention..and newer, simplified version of our Offense...NO MORE EXCUSES...NO MORE 8-8....Playoffs or bust...for real.. |
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05-01-2005, 02:36 AM
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DE - Will Smith
MLB - Alfred Fincher (Watson to SAM) DT - Sullivan (Maybe just wishful thinking...) WLB - Bockwoldt SS - Bellamy LT - Gandy What about the LG? Montrae vs. Jacox, Nesbit? |
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05-01-2005, 03:55 AM
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Holland.
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05-01-2005, 09:07 AM
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MLB-Watson over Fincher (for now)
WLB-Bockwoldt over Fincher (for now) SLB-Allen over nobody DE-Howard over Smith (but equal PT) SS-Bellamy over Smith (for now) DT-Green over Leisle Gandy over Stinchcomb By mid-season... Fincher at MLB Watson at WLB Bullocks at SS Stinchcomb at LT Meirer at TE Simon at DT |
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05-01-2005, 10:39 AM
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yea HOLLAND! |
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05-01-2005, 04:12 PM
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Even though Sticnhcomb isn\'t a rookie ... here\'s one scouting report on him.
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