NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy

nola_swammi · 07-12-2018, 02:19 AM

Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted.

frydaddy · 07-12-2018, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted.

Insert huge exaggerated eye roll here.

burningmetal · 07-12-2018, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted.

And, once again, your kind of ignorance and hyperbole is what's wrong with this whole situation.

There is no evidence of disproportionate prejudice towards blacks. The overwhelming problem within the "black community" is black on black crime. It's the people who get on television and spread lies with their cherry picking videos that cause divide. And the officers who shoot black men who are threatening them and who have KNOWN criminal records, that the media and black lives matter twist into being somehow the officers fault, that cause tension in this country.

It's because people like YOU who don't bother to look for evidence, but rather assume that everything is racism, and it's all about you, that make the word "racism" even a thing anymore. The word is meaningless now. It's just a thing people say when they don't like their lives and they want someone else to blame.

rezburna · 07-12-2018, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

And, once again, your kind of ignorance and hyperbole is what's wrong with this whole situation.

There is no evidence of disproportionate prejudice towards blacks. The overwhelming problem within the "black community" is black on black crime. It's the people who get on television and spread lies with their cherry picking videos that cause divide. And the officers who shoot black men who are threatening them and who have KNOWN criminal records, that the media and black lives matter twist into being somehow the officers fault, that cause tension in this country.

It's because people like YOU who don't bother to look for evidence, but rather assume that everything is racism, and it's all about you, that make the word "racism" even a thing anymore. The word is meaningless now. It's just a thing people say when they don't like their lives and they want someone else to blame.

There is ample evidence of disproportionate, aggressive, and unfair policing of Blacks. There are scholarly journals and research studies on the topic. If you go to Google and type in Google Scholar it’ll take you to a Google-driven search engine specifically used for research purposes. Peer review articles and journals galore. Empirical data and evidence in abundance. I use it to write my papers on racial healthcare disparities.

burningmetal · 07-12-2018, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

There is ample evidence of disproportionate, aggressive, and unfair policing of Blacks. There are scholarly journals and research studies on the topic. If you go to Google and type in Google Scholar it’ll take you to a Google-driven search engine specifically used for research purposes. Peer review articles and journals galore. Empirical data and evidence in abundance. I use it to write my papers on racial healthcare disparities.

I would expect no less than for you to get your "evidence" from google searches. Google, who has been shown to sensor any kind of Conservative coverage, to persuade the public toward their liberal views, is apparently the gospel now.

If we're talking about anytime up until about 1970, I'd agree with you. what we have now is a fact that blacks ( I'm not indicting every single black person here) commit the majority of crime in this country despite being 13% of the overall population. Yet, instead of being outraged with such behavior, you automatically assume that this must mean that blacks are being targeted. Almost all of the high profile cases that make national news involve a black guy getting shot because he was resisting arrest or threatening a cop in some way, and the media coverage inexplicably rushes to the defense of the criminal. There are people who still defend OJ. Where was the disproportionate treatment of him?

I've long said that there ARE, of course, cases of prejudice. But it is nowhere NEAR to the extent that you would have us believe. If you want to talk about real empirical evidence, it is a fact that black people are being accepted into many colleges and universities based on the fact that they are a minority, and not because they are more qualified. This is not to say that no black people are qualified, before you try to take it that way. But a lot of qualified applicants are turned down in favor of the "inclusion" method. There is a collective fear that a lot of people have over not wanting to be labeled a racist. People lose their jobs over the mere CLAIM of having said or done something racist. Employers are so unwilling to go down that rabbit hole that they often just make knee jerk decisions, and fire people without a thorough investigation. And if you think I'm making that up, then you are out of touch with modern reality, my friend.

nola_swammi · 07-13-2018, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

And, once again, your kind of ignorance and hyperbole is what's wrong with this whole situation.

There is no evidence of disproportionate prejudice towards blacks. The overwhelming problem within the "black community" is black on black crime. It's the people who get on television and spread lies with their cherry picking videos that cause divide. And the officers who shoot black men who are threatening them and who have KNOWN criminal records, that the media and black lives matter twist into being somehow the officers fault, that cause tension in this country.

It's because people like YOU who don't bother to look for evidence, but rather assume that everything is racism, and it's all about you, that make the word "racism" even a thing anymore. The word is meaningless now. It's just a thing people say when they don't like their lives and they want someone else to blame.

YOU KNOW THE WORST THING IS YOUR IGNORANCE! You talk about black on black crimes as justification for the brutality. How would you feel if Whites were targeted for behavior of the use of automatic rifles or shooting up schools. Just cause a person is black, don't justify killing and hiding behind the law fear for your life when the person is unarmed. Videos don't cause the divide, the blind eye does and your ignorance for justifying killing of human being. If a person is panhandling do he deserve to die? If a person have a warrant for not paying their child support they deserve to die? CAUSE A MAN IS BLACK DO HE DESRVE TO DIE? GO sit your ignorant arse down and read a book.

CheramieIII · 07-12-2018, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted.

We really didn't go there did we? We need stats. Just to say what you feel doesn't make it true no matter how passionately you feel about it. All of the cases where a police officer beating or killing a cop are shown on the news. How many do you see on the news and of those I would say at least 50% are justified. Now how many blacks kill blacks and why don't we talk about that too. It's easy to make the police departments the fall guys but in reality it's not reality.

Foot note: I have children that are black and I understand the difference between white and black. I don't know the feeling but I understand it.

nola_swammi · 07-13-2018, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

We really didn't go there did we? We need stats. Just to say what you feel doesn't make it true no matter how passionately you feel about it. All of the cases where a police officer beating or killing a cop are shown on the news. How many do you see on the news and of those I would say at least 50% are justified. Now how many blacks kill blacks and why don't we talk about that too. It's easy to make the police departments the fall guys but in reality it's not reality.

Foot note: I have children that are black and I understand the difference between white and black. I don't know the feeling but I understand it.

MOST of the killing of officers are by white people so why are blacks the most feared and killed? For blacks killing blacks (read statement up above)

skymike · 07-16-2018, 07:47 PM

I support the Police.
They dont give a damn what color you are; half of them ARE Black.
The Mayors of most Major U.S. cities are also.
I support the Flag and America.
If you dont, why dont you move?

Im the Customer.
This is Bullsh**.
If they want my money, they need to stop.
Go do it, when you're off duty. But its not making you any friends,
it's dividing us, and messing up a good thing. The only color I want
to care bout is our Jersey.

07-12-2018, 02:19 AM	#1
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted.

07-12-2018, 07:26 AM	#2
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Originally Posted by nola_swammi Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted. Insert huge exaggerated eye roll here. Rugby Saint II likes this.

07-12-2018, 07:34 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Originally Posted by nola_swammi Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted. And, once again, your kind of ignorance and hyperbole is what's wrong with this whole situation. There is no evidence of disproportionate prejudice towards blacks. The overwhelming problem within the "black community" is black on black crime. It's the people who get on television and spread lies with their cherry picking videos that cause divide. And the officers who shoot black men who are threatening them and who have KNOWN criminal records, that the media and black lives matter twist into being somehow the officers fault, that cause tension in this country. It's because people like YOU who don't bother to look for evidence, but rather assume that everything is racism, and it's all about you, that make the word "racism" even a thing anymore. The word is meaningless now. It's just a thing people say when they don't like their lives and they want someone else to blame. Rugby Saint II likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

07-12-2018, 08:01 AM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Originally Posted by burningmetal And, once again, your kind of ignorance and hyperbole is what's wrong with this whole situation. There is no evidence of disproportionate prejudice towards blacks. The overwhelming problem within the "black community" is black on black crime. It's the people who get on television and spread lies with their cherry picking videos that cause divide. And the officers who shoot black men who are threatening them and who have KNOWN criminal records, that the media and black lives matter twist into being somehow the officers fault, that cause tension in this country. It's because people like YOU who don't bother to look for evidence, but rather assume that everything is racism, and it's all about you, that make the word "racism" even a thing anymore. The word is meaningless now. It's just a thing people say when they don't like their lives and they want someone else to blame. There is ample evidence of disproportionate, aggressive, and unfair policing of Blacks. There are scholarly journals and research studies on the topic. If you go to Google and type in Google Scholar it’ll take you to a Google-driven search engine specifically used for research purposes. Peer review articles and journals galore. Empirical data and evidence in abundance. I use it to write my papers on racial healthcare disparities.

07-12-2018, 05:41 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Originally Posted by rezburna There is ample evidence of disproportionate, aggressive, and unfair policing of Blacks. There are scholarly journals and research studies on the topic. If you go to Google and type in Google Scholar it’ll take you to a Google-driven search engine specifically used for research purposes. Peer review articles and journals galore. Empirical data and evidence in abundance. I use it to write my papers on racial healthcare disparities. I would expect no less than for you to get your "evidence" from google searches. Google, who has been shown to sensor any kind of Conservative coverage, to persuade the public toward their liberal views, is apparently the gospel now. If we're talking about anytime up until about 1970, I'd agree with you. what we have now is a fact that blacks ( I'm not indicting every single black person here) commit the majority of crime in this country despite being 13% of the overall population. Yet, instead of being outraged with such behavior, you automatically assume that this must mean that blacks are being targeted. Almost all of the high profile cases that make national news involve a black guy getting shot because he was resisting arrest or threatening a cop in some way, and the media coverage inexplicably rushes to the defense of the criminal. There are people who still defend OJ. Where was the disproportionate treatment of him? I've long said that there ARE, of course, cases of prejudice. But it is nowhere NEAR to the extent that you would have us believe. If you want to talk about real empirical evidence, it is a fact that black people are being accepted into many colleges and universities based on the fact that they are a minority, and not because they are more qualified. This is not to say that no black people are qualified, before you try to take it that way. But a lot of qualified applicants are turned down in favor of the "inclusion" method. There is a collective fear that a lot of people have over not wanting to be labeled a racist. People lose their jobs over the mere CLAIM of having said or done something racist. Employers are so unwilling to go down that rabbit hole that they often just make knee jerk decisions, and fire people without a thorough investigation. And if you think I'm making that up, then you are out of touch with modern reality, my friend. jnormand and WhoDatLucky like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

07-13-2018, 01:38 AM	#6
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Originally Posted by burningmetal And, once again, your kind of ignorance and hyperbole is what's wrong with this whole situation. There is no evidence of disproportionate prejudice towards blacks. The overwhelming problem within the "black community" is black on black crime. It's the people who get on television and spread lies with their cherry picking videos that cause divide. And the officers who shoot black men who are threatening them and who have KNOWN criminal records, that the media and black lives matter twist into being somehow the officers fault, that cause tension in this country. It's because people like YOU who don't bother to look for evidence, but rather assume that everything is racism, and it's all about you, that make the word "racism" even a thing anymore. The word is meaningless now. It's just a thing people say when they don't like their lives and they want someone else to blame. YOU KNOW THE WORST THING IS YOUR IGNORANCE! You talk about black on black crimes as justification for the brutality. How would you feel if Whites were targeted for behavior of the use of automatic rifles or shooting up schools. Just cause a person is black, don't justify killing and hiding behind the law fear for your life when the person is unarmed. Videos don't cause the divide, the blind eye does and your ignorance for justifying killing of human being. If a person is panhandling do he deserve to die? If a person have a warrant for not paying their child support they deserve to die? CAUSE A MAN IS BLACK DO HE DESRVE TO DIE? GO sit your ignorant arse down and read a book.

07-12-2018, 01:14 PM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,489 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Originally Posted by nola_swammi Simple solution, stop beating and killing black Americans, then letting the offender not be prosecuted. We really didn't go there did we? We need stats. Just to say what you feel doesn't make it true no matter how passionately you feel about it. All of the cases where a police officer beating or killing a cop are shown on the news. How many do you see on the news and of those I would say at least 50% are justified. Now how many blacks kill blacks and why don't we talk about that too. It's easy to make the police departments the fall guys but in reality it's not reality. Foot note: I have children that are black and I understand the difference between white and black. I don't know the feeling but I understand it. Rugby Saint II and burningmetal like this.
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07-13-2018, 01:42 AM	#8
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy Originally Posted by CheramieIII We really didn't go there did we? We need stats. Just to say what you feel doesn't make it true no matter how passionately you feel about it. All of the cases where a police officer beating or killing a cop are shown on the news. How many do you see on the news and of those I would say at least 50% are justified. Now how many blacks kill blacks and why don't we talk about that too. It's easy to make the police departments the fall guys but in reality it's not reality. Foot note: I have children that are black and I understand the difference between white and black. I don't know the feeling but I understand it. MOST of the killing of officers are by white people so why are blacks the most feared and killed? For blacks killing blacks (read statement up above)

07-16-2018, 07:47 PM	#9
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: NFL Players Association files grievance challenging national anthem policy I support the Police. They dont give a damn what color you are; half of them ARE Black. The Mayors of most Major U.S. cities are also. I support the Flag and America. If you dont, why dont you move? Im the Customer. This is Bullsh**. If they want my money, they need to stop. Go do it, when you're off duty. But its not making you any friends, it's dividing us, and messing up a good thing. The only color I want to care bout is our Jersey. SmashMouth likes this.

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