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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 806802)

This was really the only thread of relevance after weeks of being away. And honestly, this has already been debated. It's Rodgers. Has Brees carried us on his back to the playoffs with a bad defense?

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 806804)

I get what you are saying but GB bad defense and our past bad defense, are two way different things. Rodgers has had Jordy Nelson, Cobb, Adams 3 very good receivers. And I am sure Rodgers makes them look better than they are just like Brees does. I honestly don't think Rodgers could have even kept up with anyone else had he had our defense. Our team is a lot alike to GB, both teams only need a decent D to be successful and make a playoff run.

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 806806)

I love Brees and what he does for us, but Rodgers throws less picks.

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 806829)

Are you comparing them at age 35? If so I’d say Brees.

We’ll see where AR is by age 39. As it stands Brees is on the verge of owning several more new NFL records....

Head to Head Matchups

Monday 11/24/08 @ N.O.
Saints Win 51 - 29 (my first ever Saint's game)
Brees 20/26 323yds 4TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 23/41 248yds 2TDs / 3INTs

Thursday 9/8/11 @ G.B.
Packers Win 42 - 34
Brees 32/49 419yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 27/35 312yds 3TDs / 0INTs

Sunday 9/30/12 @ G.B.
Packers Win 28 - 27
Brees 35/54 446yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 31/41 319yds 4TDs / 1INT

Sunday Night 10/26/14 @ N.O.
Saints Win 44 - 23
Brees 27/32 311yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 28/39 418yds 1TD / 2INTs

Head to Head (2 - 2)
Both QBs at Home (2 - 0)

QB Stats for those 4 Gms
Brees 114/161 (70.8%)
1,499 pass yds 13TDs / 0INTs
Passer Rating 126.8

Rodgers 109/156 (69.9%)
1,297 pass yds 10TDs / 6INTs
Passer Rating 100.3

Since '08 Season (Rodger's first season as starter)

Regular Season Games Started
Brees 158 / 160
Rodgers 142 / 160

Regular Season Record
Brees (95 - 63)
Rodgers (94 - 48)

Regular Season 4th Qtr Comebacks
Brees 21
Rodgers 11

Regular Season Game Winning Drives
(4th Qtr or OT game where winning team went ahead for last time)
Brees 29
Rodgers 17

Regular Season Sacks Taken
Brees 252
Rodgers 354

Bree's Accolades since '06
Led League in Passing Yds
'06 '08 '11 '12 '14 '15 '16 (7 times)
Led League in Passing TDs
'08 '09 '11 '12 (4 times)
NFL Regular Season MVP
0 times (what a sham)
Division Titles
'06 '09 '11 '17 (4 times)
Playoff Record
(7 - 5)
SB XLIV Champion & MVP
Pro Bowl WRs
2017 M. Thomas (1)

Rodger's Accolades since '08
Led League in Passing Yds
(0 times)
Led League in Passing TDs
'16 (1 time)
NFL Regular Season MVP
'11 '14 (2 times)
Division Titles
'11 '12 '13 '14 '16 (5 times)
Playoff Record
(9 - 7)
SB XLV Champion & MVP
Pro Bowl WRs
2010 G. Jennings
2011 G. Jennings
2014 R. Cobb
2014 J. Nelson
2017 D. Adams (5)

If being completely unbiased, its a PUSH between the QBs at this point. Both have different styles of play and different offensive systems. Brees has better QB stats and records and Rogers has 2 MVPs with more pro bowl WRs. You can say I cherry-picked the above stats to make my argument but I don't care. Brees has done more with less and carried the Saints for several lackluster seasons in his tenure. How many other QBs could have taken the 2012 Saints team with the worst defense in NFL history for giving up yards and still managed a 7-9 record? We almost made it to .500 that season. Let that sink in for a minute. I'm not here to say that Rodgers isn't one of the best QBs to play the game or that he doesn't deserve his success but the numbers/stats/accolades above have not nor will they ever sway me to believe that he is miles better than Brees. Rodgers is a precise, flashy, mobile, and highly marketable player to the league. I do get why he is lauded the way that he is with most NFL fans. However, as you can see with some of the numbers above, I will NEVER be convinced that Drew Brees is not as good or even better in some categories than Aaron Rodgers (even if I am seeing things through my Black & Gold lenses). All in all, I am just a fan of the game itself and love to watch these 2 perfect their craft and be at the top of their game even in their later years. And just for all you "baws" out there, I am not some bandwagon fan who just joined the fan base in '09. Been a fan since my dad sat me down to watch my first Saints game during the Dome Patrol days and I have never looked back nor wavered my fandom.

2017 put the league on notice.
Forget Rodgers. Forget Brady.
2018 is for Drew.

So what say you now?