Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-02-2018, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If we signed the Arizona Cardinals version of Michael Floyd...the league better watch out.

It's not going to happen. Here's a quote from a Rotoworld article discussing his release from the Vikings that describes why (from https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/player.../michael-floyd):

He'd probably need a top-three receiver job to be worth keeping on the roster for another year, given that he's a total non-contributor on special teams. The 28-year-old shouldn't have too much trouble finding an organization willing to let him compete for a roster spot, though he'd have an easier time if he played special teams.

Barring injury the top 4 Saints WR spots are set (Thomas, Ginn, Meredith, Smith). The WR5 and possible WR6 spots will have to be special teams specialists.

There's no room for Floyd on the Saints. He's in training camp to get ready for the season, to put up some tape in August, to audition for the inevitiable WR2/3 job that'll open up somewhere in the league. Also training with the Saints gives him a familiarity with the offense strictly as an insurance policy for later in the season. He'll get cut and either get picked up off waivers by another squad, or will be on speed dial.

All the offensive skill positions at this point are down to battles for the bottom 5-7 of the 53 man roster. WR5/6, TE3/4, QB2/3, RB3/4. In the QB battle it's likely that the Saints will carry 3, with Hill playing Special Teams again, and Barrett going to the practice squad or being red shirted.

The bottom line though is that any veteran who doesn't play special teams need not bother to apply to play for the Saints this season. If you're not multiple/flexible in those last 5-7 slots, you won't be on the squad. The only exception to this may be Savage. And if Hill can demonstrate that he can tread water as QB2, not even then.

SFIAH

CheramieIII · 08-02-2018, 02:56 PM

Good signing. It really elevates our entire receiving corps and weeds out the slower ones.

rezburna · 08-02-2018, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

It's not going to happen. Here's a quote from a Rotoworld article discussing his release from the Vikings that describes why (from https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/player.../michael-floyd):

Barring injury the top 4 Saints WR spots are set (Thomas, Ginn, Meredith, Smith). The WR5 and possible WR6 spots will have to be special teams specialists.

There's no room for Floyd on the Saints. He's in training camp to get ready for the season, to put up some tape in August, to audition for the inevitiable WR2/3 job that'll open up somewhere in the league. Also training with the Saints gives him a familiarity with the offense strictly as an insurance policy for later in the season. He'll get cut and either get picked up off waivers by another squad, or will be on speed dial.

All the offensive skill positions at this point are down to battles for the bottom 5-7 of the 53 man roster. WR5/6, TE3/4, QB2/3, RB3/4. In the QB battle it's likely that the Saints will carry 3, with Hill playing Special Teams again, and Barrett going to the practice squad or being red shirted.

The bottom line though is that any veteran who doesn't play special teams need not bother to apply to play for the Saints this season. If you're not multiple/flexible in those last 5-7 slots, you won't be on the squad. The only exception to this may be Savage. And if Hill can demonstrate that he can tread water as QB2, not even then.

SFIAH

I like the idea of rolling out a 5-WR set with:

Thomas - 6’3”
Meredith - 6’3”
Floyd - 6’3”
Smith - 6’1”

And Kamara. I think it would be interesting.

neugey · 08-02-2018, 10:22 PM

Probably veteran insurance we won't need, but if for some reason we do they'll be there.

jeanpierre · 08-02-2018, 10:57 PM

Say it again, this is about getting the backup QBs some better talent so they can get a more accurate eval of their QBs Savage, Hill...

But Tate made an impression in the PR/KR duties, so he may want to put down another month's rent deposit so Kamara won't be the only capable returner...

jnormand · 08-02-2018, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Good signing. It really elevates our entire receiving corps and weeds out the slower ones.

Bahahaha!!!!

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-03-2018, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I like the idea of rolling out a 5-WR set with:

Thomas - 6’3”
Meredith - 6’3”
Floyd - 6’3”
Smith - 6’1”

And Kamara. I think it would be interesting.

Interesting for fantasy football maybe. But there are unanswered questions in real life.

#1 is what about Ted Ginn Jr? Ginn is the unquestioned WR2 on the squad. Also his dead cap number right now is $2.5 million, which would have to be paid whether he's a Saint or not. He's in the same situation as Floyd: veteran with somewhat limited special teams skills. But with a contract with guaranteed money with consequeces for him being released.

Next to that is the fact you are rolling out 3 guys who have been exposed to the offense for less than 3 months.

Finally while you have a bunch of big guys, who is really your speed guy?

I completely confuzzled as to how this would work. Ginn is faster. Ginn knows the offense. Ginn has a vibe with Brees. Ginn also can double as a PR/KR.

So what do you do as a GM in the real world?

SFIAH

K Major · 08-03-2018, 01:58 PM

This is how I see the roster unfolding by week #1.

M Thomas
Jr
Cam
Smith
Tate

BColeman will need to earn it on the field. Lots of talented guys in camp.

frydaddy · 08-03-2018, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Interesting for fantasy football maybe. But there are unanswered questions in real life.

#1 is what about Ted Ginn Jr? Ginn is the unquestioned WR2 on the squad. Also his dead cap number right now is $2.5 million, which would have to be paid whether he's a Saint or not. He's in the same situation as Floyd: veteran with somewhat limited special teams skills. But with a contract with guaranteed money with consequeces for him being released.

Next to that is the fact you are rolling out 3 guys who have been exposed to the offense for less than 3 months.

Finally while you have a bunch of big guys, who is really your speed guy?

I completely confuzzled as to how this would work. Ginn is faster. Ginn knows the offense. Ginn has a vibe with Brees. Ginn also can double as a PR/KR.

So what do you do as a GM in the real world?

SFIAH

You took the words right out of my mouth...err, fingers. Only way Floyd wins a spot is if he takes it from Ginn. Only way that even gets considered is if Tre Smith proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he can handle the deep threat duties. There's no way Payton goes into a season with a question mark at that position, it's too important to him. So, while I agree that on paper, or in a game of Madden that lineup looks impressive, it's also impractical right now. And keeping both Floyd and Ginn isn't really an option, due to the aforementioned lack of ST value.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-03-2018, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

BColeman will need to earn it on the field. Lots of talented guys in camp.

BColeman isn't going to make it to the field. He was already competing for the WR5 spot. And he's not currently on the field. So there's no practice, no reps, no tape.

SFIAH

08-02-2018, 09:44 AM	#31
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Originally Posted by rezburna If we signed the Arizona Cardinals version of Michael Floyd...the league better watch out. It's not going to happen. Here's a quote from a Rotoworld article discussing his release from the Vikings that describes why (from https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/player.../michael-floyd): He'd probably need a top-three receiver job to be worth keeping on the roster for another year, given that he's a total non-contributor on special teams. The 28-year-old shouldn't have too much trouble finding an organization willing to let him compete for a roster spot, though he'd have an easier time if he played special teams. Barring injury the top 4 Saints WR spots are set (Thomas, Ginn, Meredith, Smith). The WR5 and possible WR6 spots will have to be special teams specialists. There's no room for Floyd on the Saints. He's in training camp to get ready for the season, to put up some tape in August, to audition for the inevitiable WR2/3 job that'll open up somewhere in the league. Also training with the Saints gives him a familiarity with the offense strictly as an insurance policy for later in the season. He'll get cut and either get picked up off waivers by another squad, or will be on speed dial. All the offensive skill positions at this point are down to battles for the bottom 5-7 of the 53 man roster. WR5/6, TE3/4, QB2/3, RB3/4. In the QB battle it's likely that the Saints will carry 3, with Hill playing Special Teams again, and Barrett going to the practice squad or being red shirted. The bottom line though is that any veteran who doesn't play special teams need not bother to apply to play for the Saints this season. If you're not multiple/flexible in those last 5-7 slots, you won't be on the squad. The only exception to this may be Savage. And if Hill can demonstrate that he can tread water as QB2, not even then. SFIAH AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and frydaddy like this.
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08-02-2018, 02:56 PM	#32
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Good signing. It really elevates our entire receiving corps and weeds out the slower ones. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

08-02-2018, 03:56 PM	#33
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL It's not going to happen. Here's a quote from a Rotoworld article discussing his release from the Vikings that describes why (from https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/player.../michael-floyd): Barring injury the top 4 Saints WR spots are set (Thomas, Ginn, Meredith, Smith). The WR5 and possible WR6 spots will have to be special teams specialists. There's no room for Floyd on the Saints. He's in training camp to get ready for the season, to put up some tape in August, to audition for the inevitiable WR2/3 job that'll open up somewhere in the league. Also training with the Saints gives him a familiarity with the offense strictly as an insurance policy for later in the season. He'll get cut and either get picked up off waivers by another squad, or will be on speed dial. All the offensive skill positions at this point are down to battles for the bottom 5-7 of the 53 man roster. WR5/6, TE3/4, QB2/3, RB3/4. In the QB battle it's likely that the Saints will carry 3, with Hill playing Special Teams again, and Barrett going to the practice squad or being red shirted. The bottom line though is that any veteran who doesn't play special teams need not bother to apply to play for the Saints this season. If you're not multiple/flexible in those last 5-7 slots, you won't be on the squad. The only exception to this may be Savage. And if Hill can demonstrate that he can tread water as QB2, not even then. SFIAH I like the idea of rolling out a 5-WR set with: Thomas - 6’3” Meredith - 6’3” Floyd - 6’3” Smith - 6’1” And Kamara. I think it would be interesting.

08-02-2018, 10:22 PM	#34
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Probably veteran insurance we won't need, but if for some reason we do they'll be there. RailBoss likes this.

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08-02-2018, 11:43 PM	#36
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Originally Posted by CheramieIII Good signing. It really elevates our entire receiving corps and weeds out the slower ones. Bahahaha!!!! Rugby Saint II likes this.

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Originally Posted by rezburna I like the idea of rolling out a 5-WR set with: Thomas - 6’3” Meredith - 6’3” Floyd - 6’3” Smith - 6’1” And Kamara. I think it would be interesting. Interesting for fantasy football maybe. But there are unanswered questions in real life. #1 is what about Ted Ginn Jr? Ginn is the unquestioned WR2 on the squad. Also his dead cap number right now is $2.5 million, which would have to be paid whether he's a Saint or not. He's in the same situation as Floyd: veteran with somewhat limited special teams skills. But with a contract with guaranteed money with consequeces for him being released. Next to that is the fact you are rolling out 3 guys who have been exposed to the offense for less than 3 months. Finally while you have a bunch of big guys, who is really your speed guy? I completely confuzzled as to how this would work. Ginn is faster. Ginn knows the offense. Ginn has a vibe with Brees. Ginn also can double as a PR/KR. So what do you do as a GM in the real world? SFIAH frydaddy likes this.
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08-03-2018, 01:58 PM	#38
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd This is how I see the roster unfolding by week #1. M Thomas Jr Cam Smith Tate BColeman will need to earn it on the field. Lots of talented guys in camp. Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.

08-03-2018, 02:03 PM	#39
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Interesting for fantasy football maybe. But there are unanswered questions in real life. #1 is what about Ted Ginn Jr? Ginn is the unquestioned WR2 on the squad. Also his dead cap number right now is $2.5 million, which would have to be paid whether he's a Saint or not. He's in the same situation as Floyd: veteran with somewhat limited special teams skills. But with a contract with guaranteed money with consequeces for him being released. Next to that is the fact you are rolling out 3 guys who have been exposed to the offense for less than 3 months. Finally while you have a bunch of big guys, who is really your speed guy? I completely confuzzled as to how this would work. Ginn is faster. Ginn knows the offense. Ginn has a vibe with Brees. Ginn also can double as a PR/KR. So what do you do as a GM in the real world? SFIAH You took the words right out of my mouth...err, fingers. Only way Floyd wins a spot is if he takes it from Ginn. Only way that even gets considered is if Tre Smith proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he can handle the deep threat duties. There's no way Payton goes into a season with a question mark at that position, it's too important to him. So, while I agree that on paper, or in a game of Madden that lineup looks impressive, it's also impractical right now. And keeping both Floyd and Ginn isn't really an option, due to the aforementioned lack of ST value. SaintFanInATLHELL and Rugby Saint II like this.
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08-03-2018, 03:39 PM	#40
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Saints Sign WR Michael Floyd Originally Posted by K Major BColeman will need to earn it on the field. Lots of talented guys in camp. BColeman isn't going to make it to the field. He was already competing for the WR5 spot. And he's not currently on the field. So there's no practice, no reps, no tape. SFIAH

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