Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 806888)

They're cutting Michael Thomas? :confused:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 806910)

I could not understand when we signed Floyd. We already have five receivers. But I guess we're not playing our starters without pads.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 806944)

I think Brandon Tate actually has a better shot at making the roster than Michael Floyd thanks to the kick return experience.

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 806930)

Maybe Coleman’s injury is worse than we thought?

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 806949)

Listening at Sean's post practice presser from a couple of days ago ... doesn't sound too pleased with the progress of the kick return/punt dept. We shall see.

Definitely something to keep an eye on in upcoming pre season games ... starting next week.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 806929)

I don't expect to see much of Michael Thomas/Ginn in pre season games. Coleman is out (PUP) & Travis Dural was part of the training camp "rotation" but unfortunately now out with a broken arm. If you look around the league, it's common to see vets signed when injuries occur.

But again, I don't think either of these guys will stick.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 806952)

That wasn't the take I got from Payton's interview on NFL Network with Andrew Siciliano and Ladainian Tomlinson. He said his "Bachelor" comparison had everyone still in the running for return jobs (everyone got a rose). Nobody had done anything to be eliminated. I just listened to his live interview a few minutes ago with Bruce Murray and Phil Savage on their visit to Saints training camp and he said the same thing.

It isn't that he's not pleased with the return game, it's that it's difficult to pick the right returner(s) with so many good choices.

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 806990)

If they are so good then why did he say Kamara was also not off the table as an option. Not many teams have their RB1 doing it. Kinda stupid to be honest but when WR's are muffing them like like last year you do what must be done.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 807049)

If we signed the Arizona Cardinals version of Michael Floyd...the league better watch out.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 807062)

It's not going to happen. Here's a quote from a Rotoworld article discussing his release from the Vikings that describes why (from https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/player.../michael-floyd):



Barring injury the top 4 Saints WR spots are set (Thomas, Ginn, Meredith, Smith). The WR5 and possible WR6 spots will have to be special teams specialists.

There's no room for Floyd on the Saints. He's in training camp to get ready for the season, to put up some tape in August, to audition for the inevitiable WR2/3 job that'll open up somewhere in the league. Also training with the Saints gives him a familiarity with the offense strictly as an insurance policy for later in the season. He'll get cut and either get picked up off waivers by another squad, or will be on speed dial.

All the offensive skill positions at this point are down to battles for the bottom 5-7 of the 53 man roster. WR5/6, TE3/4, QB2/3, RB3/4. In the QB battle it's likely that the Saints will carry 3, with Hill playing Special Teams again, and Barrett going to the practice squad or being red shirted.

The bottom line though is that any veteran who doesn't play special teams need not bother to apply to play for the Saints this season. If you're not multiple/flexible in those last 5-7 slots, you won't be on the squad. The only exception to this may be Savage. And if Hill can demonstrate that he can tread water as QB2, not even then.

SFIAH

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 807118)

Good signing. It really elevates our entire receiving corps and weeds out the slower ones.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 807127)

I like the idea of rolling out a 5-WR set with:

Thomas - 6’3”
Meredith - 6’3”
Floyd - 6’3”
Smith - 6’1”

And Kamara. I think it would be interesting.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 807187)

Interesting for fantasy football maybe. But there are unanswered questions in real life.

#1 is what about Ted Ginn Jr? Ginn is the unquestioned WR2 on the squad. Also his dead cap number right now is $2.5 million, which would have to be paid whether he's a Saint or not. He's in the same situation as Floyd: veteran with somewhat limited special teams skills. But with a contract with guaranteed money with consequeces for him being released.

Next to that is the fact you are rolling out 3 guys who have been exposed to the offense for less than 3 months.

Finally while you have a bunch of big guys, who is really your speed guy?

I completely confuzzled as to how this would work. Ginn is faster. Ginn knows the offense. Ginn has a vibe with Brees. Ginn also can double as a PR/KR.

So what do you do as a GM in the real world?

SFIAH

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 807190)

BColeman will need to earn it on the field. Lots of talented guys in camp.