Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

Not all first round picks are created equally. A high first round pick is worth far, far more than a late first rounder. According to the Jimmy Johnson draft value chart the #1 pick (3000) is worth more than SIX times what the #32 pick (590) is valued.

According to the same chart the Saints moved the #27 pick (680) and the future 2019 pick which can be as low as #32 (590) and the 2018 #147 pick (32.2) for the 2018 #14 pick (1100). The relative values would be 1300.2 for 1100. Since New Orleans was the franchise initiating the deal it is expected to be a bit on the lower value end. All in all it isn't a bad deal at all, especially if Davenport pans out to be a top end edge rusher.

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

When Brees does eventually ride off to the sunset then our defense should be able to carry us while we find his replacement. Although, if Brees plays several more years we will have a lot of contracts coming due and will need to pony up the money to keep our defense together.

However, if we can draft a rookie QB who will play on his first contract, then we don't have to look at free agents on the open market or make some Mickey Loomis extravagant type of trade, then we will have the capital to keep the unit intact.

A rookie QB benefits by having a strong defense(along with the O-line of course).

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

With this trade I expect Drew back next year and possibly the following. If they thought he would retire or not re-sign they would of never made this trade.

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

One thing about Payton is that when he trades up for a guy, minus Von Bell, it tends to work out.

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

He BETTER contribute given what we gave for him. He needs to be as close to a sure thing as it gets. So far we have nothing.

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

Why exactly are you putting the responsibility on the player to be productive because of decisions that the front office and Payton made relative to the player. Davenport didn't engineer the trade. Davenport would have been picked in the mid teens regardless with exactly the same talent level he has now. So I see it that the Saints organization has ther responsibility to give Davenport the support and coaching necessary to justify the trade.

We saw exactly the same thing when the Saints jumped back into the first round to draft Ingram. A lot of folks were blaming the player for not having production to match the trade. It's taken some time, but I think we can all agree that Ingram's gotten there.

SFIAH

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

That was really what I was saying. For the FO own good he better be a pretty sure thing. No reflection on the player unless he’s just lazy or a problem

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

He'll likely deliver late in the season when we need it. Both playoff games looked liked carbon copies of hoping and praying we stop the hail mary's. We did stop one of them but barely. Pass rush sucked down the stretch. It was a void that had to be dealt with or die trying.

Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
 

Completely agree with post #17 (SaintFanInATLHell).

I'm already prepared for the premature Davenport "suck" thread when he doesn't get 6.5 sacks, 2 FF, pick six, passing TD & win the 2020 Democratic Nomination for Presidency in week 1.

The bias against certain players on this board is usually immediate after drafting them just like my man Mark Ingram. It's either Davenport shut them up Day 1 or he'll forever being a polarizing character.