First-round Saints pick defensive end Marcus Davenport knows he's got some catching up to do

08-23-2018, 06:12 PM

jeanpierre · 08-23-2018, 06:17 PM

BY JOEL A. ERICKSON | JERICKSON@THEADVOCATE.COM AUG 23, 2018 - 4:41 PM

COSTA MESA, Calif. — Marcus Davenport's NFL education has been far more theoretical than practical so far.

Forced to sit on the sideline for nearly three weeks because of a pulled groin injury, the rookie defensive end from Texas-San Antonio has spent that time trying to learn from a bird's-eye view, soaking in information without being able to test it out himself.

Now that he's back in the lineup, Davenport is trying to make up for lost time.

"He's got some catching up to do," Saints coach Sean Payton said.

Football at the NFL level is a complex mix of the cerebral and the physical. A pass rusher like Davenport is constantly playing a chess match against opposing tackles in terms of his approach, but unlike a master simply moving his bishop, Davenport has to be able to make the moves he's planned count.

That's the hard part right now.

"Trying to start to progress, get better, knock the rust off," Davenport said. "Right now, it's getting back into the mentality, thinking quick again and making sure my body's ready to do it."

What Davenport is trying to do now is like a man trying to leap onto a train that's already racing down the tracks. Davenport has seen the growth that teammates like Trey Hendrickson have made while he's out; he has to find a way to get to their level in far less time.

And he has to do it while the Saints keep him on a pitch count to make sure he doesn't reinjure his groin. With that in mind, New Orleans has tried to focus his snaps on the area he can make an instant impact, the pass rush.

"What situations do we want to see him in, maybe a little bit more pass-rush mode?" Payton said. "As he transitions back to 100 percent where he can get the normal amount of reps, you're focusing on the technique, all the individual work that he does."

Getting healthy in time for joint practices against the Chargers helps, as well as being ready to take his first snaps in a preseason game Saturday.

Without these snaps, Davenport would only get a chance to practice against his own teammates.

"These reps that he's getting are obviously real important, because he is behind," Payton said. "He's doing some good things, and I think it's good that he's getting to see some different offensive schemes, different individuals he's going against."

While he's been out, Davenport has kept learning, leaning on the expertise of assistant coaches Ryan Nielsen and Brian Young, as well as All-Pro defensive end Cameron Jordan.

"That's my mentor right now," Davenport said of Jordan.

Jordan, an encyclopedia of knowledge about pass rushers around the league, has focused on trying to get Davenport to understand how he can use the length of his 6-foot-6 frame to his advantage.

Without proper technique, Davenport's height can also cause leverage problems for him if he allows tackles to get underneath him, and Jordan has pointed Davenport to players who know how to play with good pad level and make their length work for them.

"I'm like, just check out (Cincinnati Bengals defensive end) Carlos Dunlap, check out your taller rushers, but at the same time be aware that you're going to be one of your taller defensive ends out there," Jordan said. "With height comes some easy swim-overs but at the same time, leverage is going to be key."

Former LSU star and current Minnesota Vikings star Danielle Hunter and Detroit Lions star Ezekiel Ansah, who both stand 6-5, are the two players that have caught Davenport's attention so far, as well as the 6-4 Jordan, who he sees every day.

Davenport hasn't really thought of himself as an outlier so far; learning to isolate the tools that made him a first-round pick will take time.

"For me, I'm normal size, it's everybody else that's different," Davenport said. "I hope (it can be an asset), if I use it right."

Finally getting back on the field and testing out the things he's been seeing on tape is the first step.

The Dude · 08-23-2018, 08:51 PM

Didn’t like the pick to begin with. Just don’t have a good feeling about him.

jeanpierre · 08-23-2018, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Didn’t like the pick to begin with. Just don’t have a good feeling about him.

Well, I've made my feelings clear about the pick, but that doesn't mean I don't like the young man. As a Saints fan, I'll be pulling as hard as anyone for his success...

The move was Payton's, and bad Sean felt the need to break from the previous year's proven draft process and reach with two first round picks on MD...

The trade put undue pressure on what should have been a late first round pick; two first round picks are spent on a franchise quarterback or, maybe, Lawrence Taylor...

Plus, I'll measure MD's progress against Taven Bryan, among others, who were still there at our original slot and, in Bryan's case, felt was the better pick...

Also, draftees have their college bowl game, senior bowl game, combine, pro day, individual workouts, draft, rookie camp - all within five months with no rest...

I'll never shut up about the bad draft management, again, by Payton & the Mickster, to reach; that doesn't mean I won't be praying, pulling for Davenport...

But the slow start from injury, and likely fatigue as I alluded to earlier, stunts his development at the most crucial periods of a young career...

It also was a near-worst case scenario when you couple the pressure of two first round picks invested to move up and take him; will be interesting to see MD respond...

Hoping, praying he does well...

K Major · 08-24-2018, 12:02 PM

Marcus Davenport \| Post-Practice Presser \| Practice #20 \| 2018 Training Camp - YouTube

Rugby Saint II · 08-24-2018, 01:04 PM

Sorry guys.....you both will be eating crow before we make the regular season is over and we move into the playoffs I hope. I have a great feeling about this young man. He is smart and he is talented.....we also have a great D-line coach to get the most out of him.

Even though he is a monster my favorite trait of his, is his insatiable appetite to learn and get better. Davenport asks questions and he absorbs info like a sponge every waking moment. He will make us forget the cost real soon folks I do believe.

K Major · 08-24-2018, 01:19 PM

FYI ...

Davenport WILL play on Saturday. Not sure how many reps but he will play so there's that.

Saints Afternoon Wrap \| Practice #20 \| 2018 Training Camp - YouTube

AsylumGuido · 08-25-2018, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Sorry guys.....you both will be eating crow before we make the regular season is over and we move into the playoffs I hope. I have a great feeling about this young man. He is smart and he is talented.....we also have a great D-line coach to get the most out of him.

Even though he is a monster my favorite trait of his, is his insatiable appetite to learn and get better. Davenport asks questions and he absorbs info like a sponge every waking moment. He will make us forget the cost real soon folks I do believe.

I'm right there with you, Rugby. I wouldn't be surprised by another DROTY.

rezburna · 08-25-2018, 03:44 PM

He’s freakishly athletic. I can’t wait to see him in action.

Rugby Saint II · 08-27-2018, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm right there with you, Rugby. I wouldn't be surprised by another DROTY.

I'm with stupid!

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: First-round Saints pick defensive end Marcus Davenport knows he's got some catching up to do BY JOEL A. ERICKSON \| JERICKSON@THEADVOCATE.COM AUG 23, 2018 - 4:41 PM COSTA MESA, Calif. — Marcus Davenport's NFL education has been far more theoretical than practical so far. Forced to sit on the sideline for nearly three weeks because of a pulled groin injury, the rookie defensive end from Texas-San Antonio has spent that time trying to learn from a bird's-eye view, soaking in information without being able to test it out himself. Now that he's back in the lineup, Davenport is trying to make up for lost time. "He's got some catching up to do," Saints coach Sean Payton said. Football at the NFL level is a complex mix of the cerebral and the physical. A pass rusher like Davenport is constantly playing a chess match against opposing tackles in terms of his approach, but unlike a master simply moving his bishop, Davenport has to be able to make the moves he's planned count. That's the hard part right now. "Trying to start to progress, get better, knock the rust off," Davenport said. "Right now, it's getting back into the mentality, thinking quick again and making sure my body's ready to do it." What Davenport is trying to do now is like a man trying to leap onto a train that's already racing down the tracks. Davenport has seen the growth that teammates like Trey Hendrickson have made while he's out; he has to find a way to get to their level in far less time. And he has to do it while the Saints keep him on a pitch count to make sure he doesn't reinjure his groin. With that in mind, New Orleans has tried to focus his snaps on the area he can make an instant impact, the pass rush. "What situations do we want to see him in, maybe a little bit more pass-rush mode?" Payton said. "As he transitions back to 100 percent where he can get the normal amount of reps, you're focusing on the technique, all the individual work that he does." Getting healthy in time for joint practices against the Chargers helps, as well as being ready to take his first snaps in a preseason game Saturday. Without these snaps, Davenport would only get a chance to practice against his own teammates. "These reps that he's getting are obviously real important, because he is behind," Payton said. "He's doing some good things, and I think it's good that he's getting to see some different offensive schemes, different individuals he's going against." While he's been out, Davenport has kept learning, leaning on the expertise of assistant coaches Ryan Nielsen and Brian Young, as well as All-Pro defensive end Cameron Jordan. "That's my mentor right now," Davenport said of Jordan. Jordan, an encyclopedia of knowledge about pass rushers around the league, has focused on trying to get Davenport to understand how he can use the length of his 6-foot-6 frame to his advantage. Without proper technique, Davenport's height can also cause leverage problems for him if he allows tackles to get underneath him, and Jordan has pointed Davenport to players who know how to play with good pad level and make their length work for them. "I'm like, just check out (Cincinnati Bengals defensive end) Carlos Dunlap, check out your taller rushers, but at the same time be aware that you're going to be one of your taller defensive ends out there," Jordan said. "With height comes some easy swim-overs but at the same time, leverage is going to be key." Former LSU star and current Minnesota Vikings star Danielle Hunter and Detroit Lions star Ezekiel Ansah, who both stand 6-5, are the two players that have caught Davenport's attention so far, as well as the 6-4 Jordan, who he sees every day. Davenport hasn't really thought of himself as an outlier so far; learning to isolate the tools that made him a first-round pick will take time. "For me, I'm normal size, it's everybody else that's different," Davenport said. "I hope (it can be an asset), if I use it right." Finally getting back on the field and testing out the things he's been seeing on tape is the first step.
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08-23-2018, 08:51 PM	#3
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: First-round Saints pick defensive end Marcus Davenport knows he's got some catching up to do Originally Posted by The Dude Didn’t like the pick to begin with. Just don’t have a good feeling about him. Well, I've made my feelings clear about the pick, but that doesn't mean I don't like the young man. As a Saints fan, I'll be pulling as hard as anyone for his success... The move was Payton's, and bad Sean felt the need to break from the previous year's proven draft process and reach with two first round picks on MD... The trade put undue pressure on what should have been a late first round pick; two first round picks are spent on a franchise quarterback or, maybe, Lawrence Taylor... Plus, I'll measure MD's progress against Taven Bryan, among others, who were still there at our original slot and, in Bryan's case, felt was the better pick... Also, draftees have their college bowl game, senior bowl game, combine, pro day, individual workouts, draft, rookie camp - all within five months with no rest... I'll never shut up about the bad draft management, again, by Payton & the Mickster, to reach; that doesn't mean I won't be praying, pulling for Davenport... But the slow start from injury, and likely fatigue as I alluded to earlier, stunts his development at the most crucial periods of a young career... It also was a near-worst case scenario when you couple the pressure of two first round picks invested to move up and take him; will be interesting to see MD respond... Hoping, praying he does well...
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: First-round Saints pick defensive end Marcus Davenport knows he's got some catching up to do Sorry guys.....you both will be eating crow before we make the regular season is over and we move into the playoffs I hope. I have a great feeling about this young man. He is smart and he is talented.....we also have a great D-line coach to get the most out of him. Even though he is a monster my favorite trait of his, is his insatiable appetite to learn and get better. Davenport asks questions and he absorbs info like a sponge every waking moment. He will make us forget the cost real soon folks I do believe. AsylumGuido and Thirty3 like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: First-round Saints pick defensive end Marcus Davenport knows he's got some catching up to do Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Sorry guys.....you both will be eating crow before we make the regular season is over and we move into the playoffs I hope. I have a great feeling about this young man. He is smart and he is talented.....we also have a great D-line coach to get the most out of him. Even though he is a monster my favorite trait of his, is his insatiable appetite to learn and get better. Davenport asks questions and he absorbs info like a sponge every waking moment. He will make us forget the cost real soon folks I do believe. I'm right there with you, Rugby. I wouldn't be surprised by another DROTY. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: First-round Saints pick defensive end Marcus Davenport knows he's got some catching up to do Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm right there with you, Rugby. I wouldn't be surprised by another DROTY. I'm with stupid!

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