Saints quarterback Taysom Hill bounces back with performance that highlights his unique potential

frydaddy · 08-26-2018, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

What would be cool is a 2 pt play where Brees, Hill, & Kamara are all in the backfield. Hike to Hill on RPO fake to Kamara & hit Brees in the end zone ala Burton-to-Foles. With MT in the mix & figure out how to get Ingram in the formation and we're cooking.

Starting to sound like The Waterboy coach, and I even have the Roy Orbison tattoo.

Sounds like a winner Mr. Coach Klein

Utah_Saint · 08-27-2018, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Yeah, he looked pretty good against 3rd stringers. As he did in the first game. His athleticism alone is superior to that of the competition he faces in these late game situations. But it was a very different story when he was facing guys who match or exceed his athleticism.

Honestly, I like the guy and I want him to succeed. I think he's a fantastic special teams player and a dangerous weapon when it comes to trick plays. And I still think he'd make one hell of a slot receiver. But last night didn't do anything to convince me that he's the heir apparent, or even that he's ready for the #2 role. I think he could potentially ascend to that spot in another couple of years if he works his ass off for it, but I still don't think he'd be ready to take over when Brees retires. He's most likely several years away from any chance at being a starter, and he's already 28. I just don't see it. And when you consider that they're letting him play ST, where some of the most violent hits occur, it sure doesn't seem like the coaching staff believes much differently than I do.

Definitely worth the roster spot though, to see where his progression takes him.

Euphoria · 08-27-2018, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Maybe first player in the NFL, in the modern era of football...

We better check the tape because years ago we had Guido Merkins... I think he played every position for us at some point... QB, Punter, Center, RB.

vpheughan · 08-27-2018, 05:13 PM

Threw his only two TD passes as a Saint 1982 and 1985 51.5 career QB rating. Caught 2 out of 3 as a Saint. 1981 and 1985.

Rugby Saint II · 08-27-2018, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Yeah, he looked pretty good against 3rd stringers. As he did in the first game. His athleticism alone is superior to that of the competition he faces in these late game situations. But it was a very different story when he was facing guys who match or exceed his athleticism.

Honestly, I like the guy and I want him to succeed. I think he's a fantastic special teams player and a dangerous weapon when it comes to trick plays. And I still think he'd make one hell of a slot receiver. But last night didn't do anything to convince me that he's the heir apparent, or even that he's ready for the #2 role. I think he could potentially ascend to that spot in another couple of years if he works his ass off for it, but I still don't think he'd be ready to take over when Brees retires. He's most likely several years away from any chance at being a starter, and he's already 28. I just don't see it. And when you consider that they're letting him play ST, where some of the most violent hits occur, it sure doesn't seem like the coaching staff believes much differently than I do.

Actually, after his performance last week when he was concentrating on throwing and not running he didn't do as well as he did this game with a little more time. I thought he read his progressions nicely and he ran only when he needed to. He could be groomed to be the heir apparently......possibly.

I like his pocket presence and poise in the pocket. I also think his delivery is crisp and sharp looking.....although not always on target but I believe coach Payton can work with that.

Joe Montana(before Drew came to New Orleans was my all time favorite QB) was replaced by a running QB and had a head coach who was an offensive genius. That franchise evolved and I believe Payton can help the Saints evolve as well. He may not be Bill Walsh but he's a damn good coach!

Barry from MS · 08-27-2018, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I thought he read his progressions nicely and he ran only when he needed to.

That is what I noticed the most. QBs don't usually get to make a whole bunch of reads on a given play, but he did well hanging in & not bailing too early. Also did well on that 1 screen in/near the red zone...he sold it well. His release is fairly quick, and he doesn't lock onto the checkdown like Savage does.

Still want to see more of J.T., but I get the feeling he'll be on P.S. this year & we'll see more of him next year. He's gonna be valuable for the scout team as we have probs with running QBs.

spkb25 · 08-27-2018, 09:28 PM

I don't think we should be comparing taysom to Steve Young...

ScottF · 08-29-2018, 12:00 PM

The key number that most people miss with Hill is that he just turned 28. He red-shirted, did the LDS mission, and now here he is, a second year player at Chris Weinke age.

I hope we see a lot of him this year, but as QB-of-the-future he is a long, long, shot

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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,947 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints quarterback Taysom Hill bounces back with performance that highlights his unique potential Originally Posted by Barry from MS What would be cool is a 2 pt play where Brees, Hill, & Kamara are all in the backfield. Hike to Hill on RPO fake to Kamara & hit Brees in the end zone ala Burton-to-Foles. With MT in the mix & figure out how to get Ingram in the formation and we're cooking. Starting to sound like The Waterboy coach, and I even have the Roy Orbison tattoo. Sounds like a winner Mr. Coach Klein

08-27-2018, 08:56 AM	#13
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints quarterback Taysom Hill bounces back with performance that highlights his unique potential Originally Posted by frydaddy Yeah, he looked pretty good against 3rd stringers. As he did in the first game. His athleticism alone is superior to that of the competition he faces in these late game situations. But it was a very different story when he was facing guys who match or exceed his athleticism. Honestly, I like the guy and I want him to succeed. I think he's a fantastic special teams player and a dangerous weapon when it comes to trick plays. And I still think he'd make one hell of a slot receiver. But last night didn't do anything to convince me that he's the heir apparent, or even that he's ready for the #2 role. I think he could potentially ascend to that spot in another couple of years if he works his ass off for it, but I still don't think he'd be ready to take over when Brees retires. He's most likely several years away from any chance at being a starter, and he's already 28. I just don't see it. And when you consider that they're letting him play ST, where some of the most violent hits occur, it sure doesn't seem like the coaching staff believes much differently than I do. Definitely worth the roster spot though, to see where his progression takes him.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints quarterback Taysom Hill bounces back with performance that highlights his unique potential Originally Posted by jeanpierre Maybe first player in the NFL, in the modern era of football... We better check the tape because years ago we had Guido Merkins... I think he played every position for us at some point... QB, Punter, Center, RB.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,712	Re: Saints quarterback Taysom Hill bounces back with performance that highlights his unique potential Originally Posted by frydaddy Yeah, he looked pretty good against 3rd stringers. As he did in the first game. His athleticism alone is superior to that of the competition he faces in these late game situations. But it was a very different story when he was facing guys who match or exceed his athleticism. Honestly, I like the guy and I want him to succeed. I think he's a fantastic special teams player and a dangerous weapon when it comes to trick plays. And I still think he'd make one hell of a slot receiver. But last night didn't do anything to convince me that he's the heir apparent, or even that he's ready for the #2 role. I think he could potentially ascend to that spot in another couple of years if he works his ass off for it, but I still don't think he'd be ready to take over when Brees retires. He's most likely several years away from any chance at being a starter, and he's already 28. I just don't see it. And when you consider that they're letting him play ST, where some of the most violent hits occur, it sure doesn't seem like the coaching staff believes much differently than I do. Actually, after his performance last week when he was concentrating on throwing and not running he didn't do as well as he did this game with a little more time. I thought he read his progressions nicely and he ran only when he needed to. He could be groomed to be the heir apparently......possibly. I like his pocket presence and poise in the pocket. I also think his delivery is crisp and sharp looking.....although not always on target but I believe coach Payton can work with that. Joe Montana(before Drew came to New Orleans was my all time favorite QB) was replaced by a running QB and had a head coach who was an offensive genius. That franchise evolved and I believe Payton can help the Saints evolve as well. He may not be Bill Walsh but he's a damn good coach!
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Saints quarterback Taysom Hill bounces back with performance that highlights his unique potential I don't think we should be comparing taysom to Steve Young...

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints quarterback Taysom Hill bounces back with performance that highlights his unique potential The key number that most people miss with Hill is that he just turned 28. He red-shirted, did the LDS mission, and now here he is, a second year player at Chris Weinke age. I hope we see a lot of him this year, but as QB-of-the-future he is a long, long, shot

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