Why so negative?

VooDoo · 05-17-2005, 11:20 AM

Hi, guys. I'm new to the board. BTW, Nice site. But why so negative in here?

Where's the postive news that I see posted elsewhere? Y'all just don't like reading that stuff I suppose.

I read where Sullivan lost an additional 10 or 15 pounds. Good news??

I've heard nothing but good things so far. Sounds encouraging to me.

Nobody's feeling good?

Halo · 05-17-2005, 11:24 AM

Sometimes our guys get down on things. A lot of us have seen the Shawn Knights come through here and never make it. That's the way the NFL goes, but you're right I heard he did lose some weight and some of the other players on the team are mentoring him.

I'll tell you this much, we need him to produce this year and if he does, it will have a big impact on our D-line. But believe me, if you listen to talk radio, everyone is down on him, it's not just the forum at blackandgold.net.

WELCOME TO THE BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VooDoo · 05-17-2005, 11:28 AM

I wasn't referring to everyone being down on Sullivan. That's understandable. But it seems like the majority of people here are just down on the Saints in general. What's up with that? Like there looking for the negatives and don't care to discuss the positives.

Just a causal observation I made before posting. But we shall see.

JKool · 05-17-2005, 11:32 AM

Heya VooDoo.

There are some here who like to vent their frustrations. This usually appears negative.

Post the positive, take on the "negative" arguments, see what our boys have to offer in return. Some have made a living of it here.

I hope you enjoy the board. Welcome.

As far as Sully goes, I think that this is the inference:
1. Every year there are some reports that Sully is ready to be a productive member of the team.
2. Every year he fails to be a productive member of the team (or at least productive enough to make any real impact).
3. There is little reason to think that this year will be different.
Therefore,
C. Sully will not be a productive member of the team.

What is wrong with that argument? (He said, fully knowing what he thought was wrong with it.)

JKool · 05-17-2005, 11:33 AM

PS - I feel good about the team (except our LBs and DTs), we're looking pretty darned good this year!

VooDoo · 05-17-2005, 11:39 AM

Jkool

Thanks for the welcome. But why are you making an arguement against Sullivan? I never said I expected anything from Sullivan.

All I said was that it was reported Sullivan dropped 10 or 15 pounds. Good news? I would think so. It's about the best news I could hope for this time of year as Sullivan can hardly prove himself this time of year.

Overall I would have to say I've read a lot of overly negative posts here. It just seems that there has to more more postive than is being talked about on here.

ScottyRo · 05-17-2005, 11:39 AM

Welcome, VooDoo! Glad to have you on board.

Maybe I'm just so used to the negativity that I don't see it. I think it's mostly just some of us are wary to the party line after so many years of hearing the same thing. There's nothing like a few wins to perk up the positives though. That's all we can ask.

As far as Sullivan, I really hope he does something this year. It'd be nice not to have wasterd a couple of 1st round picks on him. If he is truly keeping his weight down, then I am encourages, but I'm going to take a wait and see attitude towards him for now.

JKool · 05-17-2005, 11:52 AM

VooDoo.

I just wanted to know what you thought of it, since I know many of the other members views.

I think you'll find that is actually only a handful of people (who post very frequently) that seem to be a bit on the "negative" side. There are lots of positive guys. Also, that info on Sully was posted here several weeks ago by an infamous poster sometiems called "Gumbo", so I guess people are just over that good news already.

Either way, you should meet Danno. He's our new White Wizard of optimism. You'll like him.

JKool · 05-17-2005, 11:55 AM

EDIT: Accidental double post. Apologies.

VooDoo · 05-17-2005, 12:06 PM

Jkool

I see. But the news on Sullivan losing 15 pounds was just reported yesterday. This is in addition to the previously reported weight loss.

I've been reading this site for about 2 months now. I know who the negative posters are and who the positive posters are. I see the negative posters ganging up on the positve guys much of the time. I was just wondering why it is so negative here. Seems counter-productive if you ask me. This is a Saints' fan fourm, is it not? I was kinda hesitant to post in this forum because of the reactions by the negative guys.

Oh, and I read the infamous Gumbo's posts too. Pretty funny.

05-17-2005, 11:20 AM	#1
VooDoo Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	Why so negative? Hi, guys. I'm new to the board. BTW, Nice site. But why so negative in here? Where's the postive news that I see posted elsewhere? Y'all just don't like reading that stuff I suppose. I read where Sullivan lost an additional 10 or 15 pounds. Good news?? I've heard nothing but good things so far. Sounds encouraging to me. Nobody's feeling good?
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05-17-2005, 11:24 AM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,565 Blog Entries: 45	RE: Why so negative? Sometimes our guys get down on things. A lot of us have seen the Shawn Knights come through here and never make it. That's the way the NFL goes, but you're right I heard he did lose some weight and some of the other players on the team are mentoring him. I'll tell you this much, we need him to produce this year and if he does, it will have a big impact on our D-line. But believe me, if you listen to talk radio, everyone is down on him, it's not just the forum at blackandgold.net. WELCOME TO THE BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-17-2005, 11:28 AM	#3
VooDoo Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	I wasn't referring to everyone being down on Sullivan. That's understandable. But it seems like the majority of people here are just down on the Saints in general. What's up with that? Like there looking for the negatives and don't care to discuss the positives. Just a causal observation I made before posting. But we shall see.
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05-17-2005, 11:32 AM	#4
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	RE: Why so negative? Heya VooDoo. There are some here who like to vent their frustrations. This usually appears negative. Post the positive, take on the "negative" arguments, see what our boys have to offer in return. Some have made a living of it here. I hope you enjoy the board. Welcome. As far as Sully goes, I think that this is the inference: 1. Every year there are some reports that Sully is ready to be a productive member of the team. 2. Every year he fails to be a productive member of the team (or at least productive enough to make any real impact). 3. There is little reason to think that this year will be different. Therefore, C. Sully will not be a productive member of the team. What is wrong with that argument? (He said, fully knowing what he thought was wrong with it.)
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05-17-2005, 11:33 AM	#5
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	RE: Why so negative? PS - I feel good about the team (except our LBs and DTs), we're looking pretty darned good this year!

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05-17-2005, 11:39 AM	#6
VooDoo Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	Jkool Thanks for the welcome. But why are you making an arguement against Sullivan? I never said I expected anything from Sullivan. All I said was that it was reported Sullivan dropped 10 or 15 pounds. Good news? I would think so. It's about the best news I could hope for this time of year as Sullivan can hardly prove himself this time of year. Overall I would have to say I've read a lot of overly negative posts here. It just seems that there has to more more postive than is being talked about on here.
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05-17-2005, 11:39 AM	#7
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	RE: Why so negative? Welcome, VooDoo! Glad to have you on board. Maybe I'm just so used to the negativity that I don't see it. I think it's mostly just some of us are wary to the party line after so many years of hearing the same thing. There's nothing like a few wins to perk up the positives though. That's all we can ask. As far as Sullivan, I really hope he does something this year. It'd be nice not to have wasterd a couple of 1st round picks on him. If he is truly keeping his weight down, then I am encourages, but I'm going to take a wait and see attitude towards him for now.

05-17-2005, 11:52 AM	#8
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	RE: Why so negative? VooDoo. I just wanted to know what you thought of it, since I know many of the other members views. I think you'll find that is actually only a handful of people (who post very frequently) that seem to be a bit on the "negative" side. There are lots of positive guys. Also, that info on Sully was posted here several weeks ago by an infamous poster sometiems called "Gumbo", so I guess people are just over that good news already. Either way, you should meet Danno. He's our new White Wizard of optimism. You'll like him.
	"... I was beating them with my eyes the whole game..." - Aaron Brooks

05-17-2005, 11:55 AM	#9
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	RE: Why so negative? EDIT: Accidental double post. Apologies.

05-17-2005, 12:06 PM	#10
VooDoo Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	Jkool I see. But the news on Sullivan losing 15 pounds was just reported yesterday. This is in addition to the previously reported weight loss. I've been reading this site for about 2 months now. I know who the negative posters are and who the positive posters are. I see the negative posters ganging up on the positve guys much of the time. I was just wondering why it is so negative here. Seems counter-productive if you ask me. This is a Saints' fan fourm, is it not? I was kinda hesitant to post in this forum because of the reactions by the negative guys. Oh, and I read the infamous Gumbo's posts too. Pretty funny.
VooDoo Rookie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25