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SaintsAvenger 05-17-2005 05:35 PM

Brown wants what??????????????????????
 
How in the hell can he even think about asking for a new contract. One season a career or big contract does not make. I mean come on he has started 10 games and now that the Saints have him slated for a starter he wants more money. But, I do give it to Loomis, he will not negotiate unless you are there. It is about time somebody gets some nuts and stand up to these mid range guys demanding more money., Get your a$$ in tyo camp and prove it on the field. I am now stepping off the soapbox who's next??????

spkb25 05-17-2005 05:42 PM

what does he want?

FireVenturi 05-17-2005 05:44 PM

I really like fakir, but come on! Play out ur deal dude. You are considered an average CB by the rest of the league, an above average CB by Saints fans because up until McKenzie came on board we had really nuthin to spit at as far as CB. Get a life! Get in camp!

spkb25 05-17-2005 05:47 PM

yeah that is pathetic. im sure noone else is knocking down his door. let him sit out. we will be ok without him. i'd like to see him play for us but i wouldnt give the guy anything extra. he doesnt deserve it yet. play great this year and maybe

WhoDat 05-17-2005 07:38 PM

He is entering his 6th season in the NFL. He is playing under the type of contract you get when you are an undrafted FA and he started. He's probably making the league minimum. Name one other starting NFL corner making league minimum...

Plus, he has progressed well and done everything the Saints have asked of him. I'm not sure what kind of money he wants, but he probably deserves a new contract.

tiggerpolice 05-17-2005 08:07 PM

i agree WhoDat but there is always a better way of doing things....he is acting as the team can't make t without him..........

Danno 05-17-2005 08:15 PM

How do you guys know this? Haz hasn't heard from him and his agent hasn't heard from him. No one has heard from him.
If he's holding out for more money he might want to inform someone of it.

tiggerpolice 05-17-2005 08:19 PM

it was just on the news....Browns agent contacted Haz and informed him of his holdout

Danno 05-17-2005 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerpolice
it was just on the news....Browns agent contacted Haz and informed him of his holdout

Wow that was quick. Haz was just on live 24 minutes ago and didn't say a word about it. Said he hadn't heard anything yet.

Tobias-Reiper 05-17-2005 08:41 PM

..was he humming?

TheDeuce 05-18-2005 02:32 AM

So Fakhir Brown is going to hold out.......... now think back to our 2nd round draft choice........ and then think about how our FS really would rather play CB than safety.........

I had said this a couple times in some threads right after the draft. I think that Dwight Smith could be an option at CB and Josh Bullocks could move in and start at FS if something happened to one of our cornerbacks. I was thinking that that "something" would be an injury, but I guess a holdout could lose Fakhir Brown his job. What does everybody else think about a possible Dwight Smith to CB and Bullocks to FS????


P.S.- Fakhir Brown is a freakin retard. He's played like 10 games, and nobody outside of New Orleans has ever heard of this guy. Honestly, if you're going to hold out, I think you should at least deserve what you're holding out for. This guy needs to shut up and be the #2 cornerback that he is.

Tobias-Reiper 05-18-2005 06:33 AM

... he's just doing what it seems everyone does in the NFL...

look at it this way:
you'll think Mickey Loomis is an idiot, right? Well, if your boss were an idiot, wouldn't you do the same thing?

CHACHING 05-18-2005 07:40 AM

hey hey hey........before we all fly off the handle lets hear what he wants first....me personaly...I feel he shoulld be paid more.(he should go about it differently) but it is what it is......
I do remember the Thomas-Ambrose combination and Brown flat out was better..........
give the kid a raise and lets move on....if he doesn't show up cut his a$$.......just that simple
(ching)

WhoDat 05-18-2005 08:35 AM

Do people understand that holding out is simply a negotiating tactic and a way to get attention?

You all act like Brown is holding out AND asking for top 5 money or something. Devery Henderson held out last season to get an extra $10,000. The guy was getting a multi-million contract and he held out for $10,000.... and he didn't see the field. Brown wants a new contract. Maybe he's asked the Saints and they haven't listened? Who knows? I know I don't, and I doubt anyone else here does. What is the Saints have been promising to rework his deal for two years and haven't?

Cut the guy some slack - he hasn't shown up to workout sessions. If he misses training camp, then we can start to get frustrated, huh?

Danno 05-18-2005 09:05 AM

Well he does make league minimum. He'll go back to camp soon and then they'll work a deal.

I'd make it with heavy incentives so that if he does play well he gets compensated accordingly.

He's just making a statement right now. "Hey, don't forget me over here. I'm starting in front of your multi-million dollar dime back"

No biggie, YET.

WhoDat 05-18-2005 09:09 AM

Good point, Danno - I hadn't thought of that. Fred Thomas, Ashley Ambrose, and Jason Craft all made more money than he did last season. No wonder he wants more money.

saintswhodi 05-18-2005 09:11 AM

Wow, sounds like the same things I said when everyone was worried about McKenzie not being at some camps. I doubt Fakhir carries this into mandatory camps.

WhoDat 05-18-2005 09:29 AM

All Hail! Whodi the Great! :)

saintswhodi 05-18-2005 09:46 AM

*Takes a bow* I'd like to thank all who made this possible, me, me, and especially me. :P

papz 05-18-2005 10:41 AM

Brown is entering the final year of a two-year deal he signed last spring. He is scheduled to earn a $540,000 base salary this season. When Brown signed the deal, he was a reserve behind starters CB Ashley Ambrose and CB Fred Thomas. But he played his way into the lineup and is now the starter opposite CB Mike McKenzie. Brown, however, is not considered a top priority of Loomis and senior football administrator Russ Ball. The duo also is trying to work out long-term deals for RB Deuce McAllister, C LeCharles Bentley and perhaps CB Mike McKenzie.

That's how much he is making... I'd boost it up to around $800k- 850k range. I mean it's only been one season... if he can do it again then he should get a contract extension at the end of this season if he performs well. I doubt it though because I have a strong feeling we are going to draft a high round corner next year. Only way I think he comes back is if we do something with Thomas' contract... You never know Thomas might regain his starting job this year and Brown would be our nickel/dime back again.

saintswhodi 05-18-2005 11:27 AM

I would agree with the Deuce here. If Brown wants to hold out, move Smith to corner. I am down with that. At least our second rounder Bullocks would see the field. Hell we are still paying Bellamy $800,000. Fakhir needs to prove it for more than part of a season. Like you said papz, who's to say Fred thomas doesn't show up this year? Fakhir is then a nickel again. Since we now have a number one corner, maybe Fred can perform with the pressure off as a number two. That would be about as welcome as Sullivan contributing. I.E. very. It would be a definite boost fro our D. But I doubt Fakhir pouts when mandatory sessions come up. He knows he is in a long line of deals that need to be done before his, at least I hope he does. Anyone heard anything on Keyou Craver or Monty Montgomery? :D

blackwidows 05-18-2005 06:44 PM

lmao Brown holding out what has he actually done to ask that.
I mean I watch primetime on ESPN because Chris Berman is downright hilllarious for one. Secondly to see how the Saints screwed up or won. I must say though I never heard him mentioned on primetime. Now Kayou Craver I have but he is gone right?

WhoDat 05-18-2005 07:31 PM

Craver is Sullivan's cousin I think.

saintswhodi 05-18-2005 08:19 PM

Sullivan ate Craver? Where'd you heat that WhoDat? :wink:

JKool 05-19-2005 12:34 AM

LOL!

I was wondering what happened to Keyou!


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