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Don't give him too much credit. The pass rush was coming on wheel chairs and the WRs were all alone. It was pitch and catch.

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-Brees looks better than ever. Can play as long as he wants.
-Kamara is the biggest playmaker in the NFL.
-Thomas is the best WR in the NFL.
-LeRibeus played very well.

-No pass rush.
-Bad LB play. Give Robertson a shot. Geez.
-Crawley looked bad.
-Lattimore looked human.
-Invisible safety play.
-No plays made at all.
-The flag football rules for the QB are ridiculous. You can't land your weight on him? Jesus Christ.

-I fully expect the Saints to bounce back next week and beyond.
-Going to be a long week. :(

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Actually you have to give him credit he put the ball up where only the WR's could get to it.

They took advantage of their WR's height over our shorter DB's.

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My point I guess is that he was not harassed. At all. That makes a very big difference. Nobody got in (or even close to) his face all day.

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You know what? There’s something seriously wrong with how Dennis Allen prepares the defense in the offseason. We’re never prepared going into the season.

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No. 48 points directly lead to the outcome of the game. Only reason they didn’t rack up more points is because they took their foot off the gas. 48 points is unacceptable especially at home. Even if we had made the comeback would it really had made you feel much better? You can’t rely on your offense to score 50 points a game to win.

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Coaching on the defensive side was an F today.

There is no way you can convince me Jordan, Williams, Davis, Okafor, Lattimore are as bad as they looked today. This defense is too talented to perform this poorly.

I don't even think Tampa punted the entire game.

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I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure

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Zero pressure. Surprisingly our run D wasn’t too bad. We got killed by the big play through the air.

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Well Omata obviously didn't get the memo that you can't drive the QB into the ground.

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Should cut Gillislee.

We have/had two RBs who played better in Jonathan Williams and Scott so use them AND send a message about fumbling

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Dude I watched that play. It's ridiculous. That hit was clean last year.

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Yep. As of this year you aren't allowed to come down with your full weight on the QB. You have to roll off to the side of them as you come down. Against bigger QB's this is going to really suck. I expect a lot more missed sacks as a result.

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You can't just sack 'em, you have to sack 'em properly...

/sarcasm...

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Yes, we were killed by the pass but our run defense was still bad. Look at the average per play by their RB. Look at our LBs not making tackles or doing it well down the field. Same as the last couple years.

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I hope we learned that Robertson should start...again

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Kind of puzzling on Craig. He couldn't have played any worse than Klein or Anzalone today.

Side note - I think as Demario Davis plays more, he'll get better. He did make a few plays today. As many posters have already stated, it makes very little sense to sign a guy, then move him from the position they were successful at. That's on our coaches.

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...Looking for the Saints defense.

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Absolutely correct but this yr it is way different. And until these fools (not just our team) get it through there thick heads, we are gonna see a lot of penalties like this. Driving the QB to the ground like he did Fitz, is so uncalled for. You don't have to body slam them, ESPECIALLY after he has already thrown the ball. This is not rocket science.

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I call it the Aaron Rodgers Rule...and it’s going to suck because the QBs that fight for every yard and are elusive will break out of a lot of sacks because defensive players will be scared they are going to get a flag...

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I don’t understand why you would pay him all that money and change his position. You paid him based on what he accomplished in the middle...and the first thing you want to do is make him play a position that he has not played in his NFL career? There were plenty of WLB that we could have signed in the offseason. Of course that’s not the Saints way...

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I think we let some of the wrong people go when the roster was trimmed. Giselle definitely has to go. Should have kept Lawrence and Tate and Scott or Williams. Our supposed strength turned out to be our greatest weakness secondary issues and linebacker was dismal. For me it's only one game. The question is does this team really have the players defensively to bounce back and I'm just not sure. I have never seen anything like this some players are going to have to sit and Payton and Allen better get their **** together.

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Another thing... Why does our defense always need “wake-up calls”? We have three 1st round picks on the D-Line and a Pro Bowl DROY at CB and these guys can’t impose their will. That’s a culture problem. I see a whole lot of other teams with good defenses who don’t need “wake-up calls.”

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Shankins was picked in the first, but beyond his first season and after NF was gone has he done Diddley poo?

I like your post, it is spot on

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Stupar is a good special teams player. Nothing more.

Davis is our best linebacker who is playing out of position.

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Lattimore is not in football shape. At 100% no way Mike Evans creates that kind of separation and runs away from him. Lattimore always had that 2nd gear. I didn't see that yesterday. Looked really slow out there.

D-line players are overrated. Onemayata is the only guy that is discruptive and I would extend him rather than Rankins (never understood the hype).

Our LBs? Always out of position. Why are they always changing something that works. New roles, starting inferior talent, Robertson on the bench...

Dennis Allen sucks at defending 3rd and long. It's not just one game. Ever since he became DC it's happening on regular basis.

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That's a problem.

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Did he accidentally pick up some tips from 3rd and Chavis? :confused:

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Davis is playing out of his natural spot & wasn't kept clean but he can't do it by himself. He made a few plays. The inability thus for Davis to excel here is strictly on the coaches.

At the end of the day, the Saints FO signed a MLB to not play in the middle :pissed:. Kind of hard to fault a guy for that.

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All facts.

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I think its hilarious really. Lol. Okay, so during camp and preseason, I saw all these reports that the LBs were getting all switched around (Davis at strong, Anzalone at Mike and so on). I seriously thought they were just making sure all the LBs knew all the positions. You know...like just in case theres an injury.

But they weren't! They really actually switched these guys around. Who the **** does that?! Lmao!!

I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more 3 safety sets starting next game.

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We don’t have good enough safeties to run the 3 safety sets. None of them fill that Jenkins/Vacarro role. Plus they keep Patrick Robinson on the field a lot. We just need to put players in their natural spots and run defenses conducive to their style of play

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Preach!

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One more thing before overreaction Monday comes to an end... Just fork over the damn cash and sign Johnathan Hankins already. Payton knew DT would be a weak spot, hence why he went after Ndamakong Suh and Muhammad Wilkerson in free agency.

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Mike Nolan needs to get his **** together and fast.

All the linebackers looked lost and slow.

Cutting Stupar looks pretty stupid now.

This is the same Demario Davis that was 6th in the league in tackles just last year. Moving him from the middle doesn't seem to be working. That's on Nolan too.

Almost all of us in this forum can see that Craig Robertson needs to be starting, why can't Nolan see it?

When you make these types of moves and they work, you look like a genius.

When you make these types of moves and they don't work, you look for another job.

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How? On special teams?