Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay

jeanpierre · 09-09-2018, 11:03 PM

I'd never have signed Davis to that kind of money after he had only one positive graded season in his career...

And if we still had Stupar, my LBers would be Anzalone - Robertson - Stupar - and I know the results would've been better than today...

Rsanders24 · 09-10-2018, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd never have signed Davis to that kind of money after he had only one positive graded season in his career...

And if we still had Stupar, my LBers would be Anzalone - Robertson - Stupar - and I know the results would've been better than today...

I don’t understand why you would pay him all that money and change his position. You paid him based on what he accomplished in the middle...and the first thing you want to do is make him play a position that he has not played in his NFL career? There were plenty of WLB that we could have signed in the offseason. Of course that’s not the Saints way...

K Major · 09-10-2018, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd never have signed Davis to that kind of money after he had only one positive graded season in his career...

And if we still had Stupar, my LBers would be Anzalone - Robertson - Stupar - and I know the results would've been better than today...

Stupar is a good special teams player. Nothing more.

Davis is our best linebacker who is playing out of position.

jeanpierre · 09-10-2018, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Stupar is a good special teams player. Nothing more.

Davis is our best linebacker who is playing out of position.

That's not true, Major -every time Stupar's had the opportunity - he's made plays...

Again, too my point, he might not be as quick as Davis, but he's rarely out of position, and he's smarter with better instincts...

Going back to PreSeason, in each game Davis has made dumb mistakes (i.e. Bortles @ Goal Line) that rookies, morons make - not highly compensated veterans...

And if Davis is out of position, I'd question his ability to execute the defense at MIKE much less his position at WILL where he ran up the wrong lane gap often...

K Major · 09-10-2018, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Again, too my point, he might not be as quick as Davis, but he's rarely out of position, and he's smarter with better instincts...

Going back to PreSeason, in each game Davis has made dumb mistakes (i.e. Bortles @ Goal Line) that rookies, morons make - not highly compensated veterans...

Davis is playing out of his natural spot & wasn't kept clean but he can't do it by himself. He made a few plays. The inability thus for Davis to excel here is strictly on the coaches.

At the end of the day, the Saints FO signed a MLB to not play in the middle . Kind of hard to fault a guy for that.

jnormand · 09-10-2018, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Davis is playing out of his natural spot & wasn't kept clean but he can't do it by himself. He made a few plays. The inability thus for Davis to excel here is strictly on the coaches.

At the end of the day, the Saints FO signed a MLB to not play in the middle . Kind of hard to fault a guy for that.

I think its hilarious really. Lol. Okay, so during camp and preseason, I saw all these reports that the LBs were getting all switched around (Davis at strong, Anzalone at Mike and so on). I seriously thought they were just making sure all the LBs knew all the positions. You know...like just in case theres an injury.

But they weren't! They really actually switched these guys around. Who the **** does that?! Lmao!!

I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more 3 safety sets starting next game.

rezburna · 09-10-2018, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I think its hilarious really. Lol. Okay, so during camp and preseason, I saw all these reports that the LBs were getting all switched around (Davis at strong, Anzalone at Mike and so on). I seriously thought they were just making sure all the LBs knew all the positions. You know...like just in case theres an injury.

But they weren't! They really actually switched these guys around. Who the **** does that?! Lmao!!

I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more 3 safety sets starting next game.

We don’t have good enough safeties to run the 3 safety sets. None of them fill that Jenkins/Vacarro role. Plus they keep Patrick Robinson on the field a lot. We just need to put players in their natural spots and run defenses conducive to their style of play

frydaddy · 09-10-2018, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We don’t have good enough safeties to run the 3 safety sets. None of them fill that Jenkins/Vacarro role. Plus they keep Patrick Robinson on the field a lot. We just need to put players in their natural spots and run defenses conducive to their style of play

Preach!

09-09-2018, 11:03 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay I'd never have signed Davis to that kind of money after he had only one positive graded season in his career... And if we still had Stupar, my LBers would be Anzalone - Robertson - Stupar - and I know the results would've been better than today... dizzle88 and MarchingOn like this.

09-10-2018, 06:46 AM	#2
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd never have signed Davis to that kind of money after he had only one positive graded season in his career... And if we still had Stupar, my LBers would be Anzalone - Robertson - Stupar - and I know the results would've been better than today... I don’t understand why you would pay him all that money and change his position. You paid him based on what he accomplished in the middle...and the first thing you want to do is make him play a position that he has not played in his NFL career? There were plenty of WLB that we could have signed in the offseason. Of course that’s not the Saints way... CharityMike, Rell&Gold and rezburna like this.

09-10-2018, 08:11 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd never have signed Davis to that kind of money after he had only one positive graded season in his career... And if we still had Stupar, my LBers would be Anzalone - Robertson - Stupar - and I know the results would've been better than today... Stupar is a good special teams player. Nothing more. Davis is our best linebacker who is playing out of position. rezburna likes this.

09-10-2018, 10:49 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by K Major Stupar is a good special teams player. Nothing more. Davis is our best linebacker who is playing out of position. That's not true, Major -every time Stupar's had the opportunity - he's made plays... Again, too my point, he might not be as quick as Davis, but he's rarely out of position, and he's smarter with better instincts... Going back to PreSeason, in each game Davis has made dumb mistakes (i.e. Bortles @ Goal Line) that rookies, morons make - not highly compensated veterans... And if Davis is out of position, I'd question his ability to execute the defense at MIKE much less his position at WILL where he ran up the wrong lane gap often... MarchingOn likes this.
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09-10-2018, 10:59 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by jeanpierre Again, too my point, he might not be as quick as Davis, but he's rarely out of position, and he's smarter with better instincts... Going back to PreSeason, in each game Davis has made dumb mistakes (i.e. Bortles @ Goal Line) that rookies, morons make - not highly compensated veterans... Davis is playing out of his natural spot & wasn't kept clean but he can't do it by himself. He made a few plays. The inability thus for Davis to excel here is strictly on the coaches. At the end of the day, the Saints FO signed a MLB to not play in the middle . Kind of hard to fault a guy for that. saintfan, jnormand, Rell&Gold and 3 others like this.

09-10-2018, 12:13 PM	#6
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,769	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by K Major Davis is playing out of his natural spot & wasn't kept clean but he can't do it by himself. He made a few plays. The inability thus for Davis to excel here is strictly on the coaches. At the end of the day, the Saints FO signed a MLB to not play in the middle . Kind of hard to fault a guy for that. I think its hilarious really. Lol. Okay, so during camp and preseason, I saw all these reports that the LBs were getting all switched around (Davis at strong, Anzalone at Mike and so on). I seriously thought they were just making sure all the LBs knew all the positions. You know...like just in case theres an injury. But they weren't! They really actually switched these guys around. Who the **** does that?! Lmao!! I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more 3 safety sets starting next game. Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

09-10-2018, 12:19 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by jnormand I think its hilarious really. Lol. Okay, so during camp and preseason, I saw all these reports that the LBs were getting all switched around (Davis at strong, Anzalone at Mike and so on). I seriously thought they were just making sure all the LBs knew all the positions. You know...like just in case theres an injury. But they weren't! They really actually switched these guys around. Who the **** does that?! Lmao!! I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more 3 safety sets starting next game. We don’t have good enough safeties to run the 3 safety sets. None of them fill that Jenkins/Vacarro role. Plus they keep Patrick Robinson on the field a lot. We just need to put players in their natural spots and run defenses conducive to their style of play saintfan, Barry from MS, frydaddy and 5 others like this.

09-10-2018, 01:32 PM	#8
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by rezburna We don’t have good enough safeties to run the 3 safety sets. None of them fill that Jenkins/Vacarro role. Plus they keep Patrick Robinson on the field a lot. We just need to put players in their natural spots and run defenses conducive to their style of play Preach!

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