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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by rezburna This was a division game against a team that's actually far more talented than people are giving them credit for. Many experts picked them to win the division last year, but they were decimated by injuries. ...
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Re: Guido
Originally Posted by rezburna
Agree the Bucs are underrated. They're not going to win the Superbowl, but they are underrated.![]()
Still, they have a bad oline, and we didn't even sniff the QB. That's my biggest concern I guess, but my concerns are all over the map after yesterday. |
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It has to be coaching. It's on the only rational explanation to why we have so much talent that can't be cultivated. Kenny Vacarro was amazing as a rookie, and the longer he was here the worse he looked. I'm afraid it's going to happen with Lattimore and Williams if we don't get things figured out. We might as well run a system where Lattimore plays man to man and everybody else plays zone.
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Re: Guido
Originally Posted by rezburna
I don't understand why we don't just put players in their natural positions and let them play. I genuinely do not understand. ![]()
I didn't play a lot of football - was too small - and I've never coached, but it just seems to me like we are way overthinking things. |
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Re: Guido
Originally Posted by saintfan
I agree. There's no reason to overcomplicate things. We have talent. We don't need to get fancy. If you watch the Falcons, they primarily run Cover 3 and Cover 1. Cover 1 and 3 go together because there's a single high safety. That's their system and they don't try to get fancy with it. They pretty much stick to that. ![]()
With our personnel, we should be running Cover 2, 2-Man under, and sprinkling in Cover 6 with the deep third responsibility of the Cover 6 going to Lattimore and the over the top help responsibility rolling over to Crawley. We don't have a true center fielder, so that's why we need two, deep safeties focusing on just their side of the field. It cuts the field in half for them and their responsibilities. Demario Davis the speed to handle the middle of the field responsibilities of the MLB in a Cover 2. |
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Re: Guido
Originally Posted by saintfan
I need to watch the game again, but I think we're playing a lot of Cover 1 and Cover 3 like Atlanta. I don't believe we have that kind of speed on this team. Not to mention, that leaves Williams to cover the middle of the field alone. That would explain Desean Jackson running by himself with Williams chasing him after he beat Crawley. It was probably a Cover 3 with Williams rolling over from Lattimore's side to Crawley's. You've got to have a specific kind of safety to run that defense efficiently. Earl Thomas comes to mind.![]()
Edit Post: I went and looked at the first Desean Jackson TD. It definitely looked like Cover 3. Williams was the single high safety and Jackson was working out of the slot. That's the weak spot of the Cover 3...the seams. Williams took too long to come over trying to worry about the whole field, which pretty much reassures me he's not a center fielder. Crawley should have been back as well in position to get an interception, but he was busy worried about the man on the outside. Seems to me like not only are people not doing their jobs, but they're running defenses that don't fit the skill set of the personnel. |
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Re: Guido
Originally Posted by rezburna
SP is notorious for trying to copy other successful defenses systems. Same thing happened a few years ago when Seattle was so dangerous. He wanted his defense to look like Seattle’s and said screw the personnel. He loves a square in a round hole. Maybe he needs to let Allen just do his job. Our defense was fine last year and I doubt it was Allen’s idea to change things. People who want to keep their jobs don’t go around completely changing things that they just started getting right.
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Re: Guido
Originally Posted by The Dude
If this is indeed the fact then I agree. Most of the personnel are the same as last year's successes with a few upgrades on defense. On the same page here.
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