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Gimme something positive.

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Nathan Peterman didn't start for the Saints today. :)

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No injuries. That’s about it.
Not that it matters. Our entire starting D was out there against a backup throwing to injured receivers.

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The positive is now it is obvious (even to all our coaches and front office) that our Defense is STILL the main problem.

Need that reflected in our draft, signing of FAs, and coaching

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We sucked on defense so bad that we didn't deserve to stand for the national anthem.

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Here's another positive. It's the 1st week. 15 more games to go. As far as I know, no team has ever been eliminated from the playoffs or have won the Super Bowl in the 1st week.

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Defense lol "we are who we thought we are"

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I get it, and I'm one of the guilty. But dude, we weren't even competitive on defense. I mean, that was just about as bad a NFL defensive performance as I have ever seen. Yes, it's game one, and dear Lord I hope it was jitters, or jelling, or scheme, or whatever, but lets respect the fact that our defense was so horrible we may as well have let 11 fans on the field to try and stop the other guys. It really was just that bad.

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We did the same thing last year. Sucked on D then a fire got lit under their ass. Seeing Lattimore on his knees. Dude, GTFU and own it. Crying like a drunk freshman girl who's boyfriend just dumped her and she puked on herself. WTF was that all about.

They got caught sleeping on a bearded QB with like 12 kids living in a log cabin. It happens. I will say, I am shocked Tre'Quan was not in the mix considering Meredith was a a statue Antifa would not even bother spitting on.

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We haven't won a opening game since 2013...wait..my bad, you said positive.

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40 Points WTF...

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Positives

I have a wonderful wife, two great sons and a super daughter-in-law to be. I have my health and am able to enjoy it in retirement. The house is paid for as are the cars. The sun must have come up this morning since I can see the back fence through the rain. We needed the rain here. The Falcons lost. The Cowboys lost. The Saints offense looked good. The Saints are playing again next week and I'll be able to watch and pull for them to win again. I can go on and on.

Negatives

The Saints lost. I gained five pounds in New Orleans last week enjoying great food and beer. Even that has its bright side. I accidentally used the debit card instead of the credit card a couple of times. Wife is pissed.

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Difference was last year's 0-2 start happened against two strong playoff teams, what's our excuse this year?

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Yeah, I don't see the Yucks going deep like the Pats/Vikes last year. I have a conspiracy theory but it'd be laughed off the board.

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In the post game, I saw the Bucs coach label him "Fitzmagic". Lol.

Simmer down fella ... you have the Champs (Philly) on tap this Sunday. The NFL has a way of humbling you. I bet he throws 2 picks.

Week to week league.

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This was a division game against a team that's actually far more talented than people are giving them credit for. Many experts picked them to win the division last year, but they were decimated by injuries. We're talking about Mike Evans, Desean Jackson, O.J. Howard, and Cameron Brate. Those are better receiving weapons than we have if you're being honest about it. Mike Evans is a more talented receiver than Michael Thomas. Desean Jackson is the receiver people thought Ted Ginn would be when he graduated from Ohio State. O.J. Howard and Cameron Brate are both much better than our TE options. Hell....Humphries is better than Austin Carr.

We should have won the game. There's no denying that...but crazy **** happens in division games. If this happens again next week against the Browns...feel free to hit the panic button. The main thing we need to do is move Davis back his natural position of MLB, replaced A.J. Klein with Craig Robertson, and pray Alex Anzalone can develop at WLB. Alex Okafor isn't completely healthy, so we need to just run with Davenport. As for Ken Crawley...no more single coverage for him. He needs all the help he can get.

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Agree the Bucs are underrated. They're not going to win the Superbowl, but they are underrated.

Still, they have a bad oline, and we didn't even sniff the QB. That's my biggest concern I guess, but my concerns are all over the map after yesterday.

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It has to be coaching. It's on the only rational explanation to why we have so much talent that can't be cultivated. Kenny Vacarro was amazing as a rookie, and the longer he was here the worse he looked. I'm afraid it's going to happen with Lattimore and Williams if we don't get things figured out. We might as well run a system where Lattimore plays man to man and everybody else plays zone.

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I don't understand why we don't just put players in their natural positions and let them play. I genuinely do not understand.

I didn't play a lot of football - was too small - and I've never coached, but it just seems to me like we are way overthinking things.

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I agree. There's no reason to overcomplicate things. We have talent. We don't need to get fancy. If you watch the Falcons, they primarily run Cover 3 and Cover 1. Cover 1 and 3 go together because there's a single high safety. That's their system and they don't try to get fancy with it. They pretty much stick to that.

With our personnel, we should be running Cover 2, 2-Man under, and sprinkling in Cover 6 with the deep third responsibility of the Cover 6 going to Lattimore and the over the top help responsibility rolling over to Crawley. We don't have a true center fielder, so that's why we need two, deep safeties focusing on just their side of the field. It cuts the field in half for them and their responsibilities. Demario Davis the speed to handle the middle of the field responsibilities of the MLB in a Cover 2.

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I need to watch the game again, but I think we're playing a lot of Cover 1 and Cover 3 like Atlanta. I don't believe we have that kind of speed on this team. Not to mention, that leaves Williams to cover the middle of the field alone. That would explain Desean Jackson running by himself with Williams chasing him after he beat Crawley. It was probably a Cover 3 with Williams rolling over from Lattimore's side to Crawley's. You've got to have a specific kind of safety to run that defense efficiently. Earl Thomas comes to mind.

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I went and looked at the first Desean Jackson TD. It definitely looked like Cover 3. Williams was the single high safety and Jackson was working out of the slot. That's the weak spot of the Cover 3...the seams. Williams took too long to come over trying to worry about the whole field, which pretty much reassures me he's not a center fielder. Crawley should have been back as well in position to get an interception, but he was busy worried about the man on the outside. Seems to me like not only are people not doing their jobs, but they're running defenses that don't fit the skill set of the personnel.

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My dong fell off.

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Please keep any personal comments to yourself. :blueshock:

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why don't we just go ahead and copy; say the vikes defense i no we don't match player for player but it would still keep a team from throwing 40 on u.

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Payton did that in 2014, trying to imitate Seattle's D.

He turned Rob Ryan's 2nd ranked pass Defense into the worst D in history.....again.

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The Vikings play a lot of the defense we don't need to be running that often. Cover 1 and Cover 3. They do a lot of single high safety and bring their other safety down in the box. When they're taking away the run they bring Harrison Smith down. When they're worried about the pass the leave Harrison Smith back. He can do both. He's an elite safety and great center fielder. He's top 3 at his position. We don't have that. A safety like that allows you to gamble. Plus they get a lot of pressure...which allows them to play press man because they know their pass rush will get there and their DB's won't have to cover forever.

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Agree, Harrison Smith is a BEAST! Hell, him alone is probably better than all our safeties put together.

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It's not even close. He's a complete safety who can do it all. Defend the pass or run. Play single high or shut down one side of the field. He can even do some man to man. He's not Malcolm Jenkins when it comes to man to man, but he's damn good for a safety. I'd trade 2 1st rounder's for Harrison Smith. He can make up for the deficiencies of Crawley in man to man because the Vikes #2 corner is just as bad on a lot of plays. Y'all should watch some of the film breakdowns on YouTube. They usually breakdown elite teams.

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Harrison Smith is on a whole different level at safety.

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+1.

Side note - Rez, did you play some safety in college as well as corner ?

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Is your problem with beards or log cabins? Or is it large families?

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Nah. I probably should have though. I didn't have high-end, cornerback speed. I was more of a Malcolm Jenkins when it came to speed...part of the reason he got moved to safety in the NFL. If I would have been as committed to the game as I regret not being I probably would have been in that kind of role. Probably not to that level though. Morgan Burnett maybe.

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Now I will say this, I want us to be able to run Cover 1 and 3 more often. I prefer it...but you MUST get pressure. Especially when you're running Cover 1. We ran these two defenses A LOT last year. If you watch some film on a couple of games WR's were flashing open deep, but we got pressure QB's didn't see it.

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Why on earth are they trying to fix something that wasn’t broken.

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They're running the same defense, they just aren't getting pressure so the QB has time to see those people flash open that flashed open last year too. It's often the same spot. Down the seam on the right side of the field where the safety is supposed to be hovering and making plays. Williams isn't a single high safety in my opinion. He's not consistent at it at least. We should try some Cover 2 and 2-Man under. Cover 6 as well. 6 is Cover 2 on one side and Cover 3 on the other. Crawley should almost always be the Cover 2 side because he's a liability in deep coverage. He holds for no reason.