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rezburna 09-12-2018 09:54 AM
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"My own analysis of data from the 2012 National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows that 6.6 percent of white adolescents and young adults (aged 12 to 25) sold drugs, compared to just 5.0 percent of blacks (a 32 percent difference)."

AsylumGuido 09-12-2018 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 812443)
Moving the Goalposts

Description: Demanding from an opponent that he or she address more and more points after the initial counter-argument has been satisfied refusing to concede or accept the opponent’s argument.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/..._the_Goalposts
You got that right. I deal with this all the time around here.

:rofl:

AsylumGuido 09-12-2018 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 812442)
A survey...really..a survey. Come on bro just stop. You're now using data 40 years old and that is a survey. Stop.
You're getting used, spk. Give up while you're behind.

:D

spkb25 09-12-2018 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 812443)
Moving the Goalposts

Description: Demanding from an opponent that he or she address more and more points after the initial counter-argument has been satisfied refusing to concede or accept the opponent’s argument.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/..._the_Goalposts
You haven't provided any real data. Youre using cherry picked studies that on one hand don't take prior history, and then when you include a study with prior history you intentionally conflate use and possession. Finally to now, somehow, demonstrate that use and distribution is higher in suburban neighborhoods ( where the inner city residents keep trying to move to, because they have higher crime, laughable) you use a survey...

frydaddy 09-12-2018 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 812446)
You got that right. I deal with this all the time around here.

:rofl:
Funny you say that, because we all deal with the exact same out of you. I have gone from loathing you and everything you post, to understanding and agreeing with you on a lot of things. One thing has remained constant though, and that is your steadfast refusal to admit you're wrong, be swayed from your opinions or apologize. No matter the circumstance.

rezburna 09-12-2018 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 812437)
You must not have read Rez's post at all. The studies state:







Just saying, spk. Maybe read before you respond.

;)
I knew he wasn't reading the data. He responded too fast. The first link is a LONG study. Peer-reviewed. A scholarly article. It's several pages long.

spkb25 09-12-2018 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 812455)
I knew he wasn't reading the data. He responded too fast. The first link is a LONG study. Peer-reviewed. A scholarly article. It's several pages long.
Oh I'm reading the exerpts your posting. You're right, right now I'm not about to dive into the data, how it was collected, and analyze it. You provided the conclusions, that's what I'm going off of

AsylumGuido 09-12-2018 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 812451)
You haven't provided any real data. Youre using cherry picked studies that on one hand don't take prior history, and then when you include a study with prior history you intentionally conflate use and possession. Finally to now, somehow, demonstrate that use and distribution is higher in suburban neighborhoods ( where the inner city residents keep trying to move to, because they have higher crime, laughable) you use a survey...
The first studies he posted specifically stated that they took prior history and/or circumstances under consideration. You obviously ignored that given it was right there in black and white ... or failed to comprehend ... or both.

AsylumGuido 09-12-2018 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 812456)
Oh I'm reading the exerpts your posting. You're right, right now I'm not about to dive into the data, how it was collected, and analyze it. You provided the conclusions, that's what I'm going off of
Off looking for some cherries to pick?

:D

AsylumGuido 09-12-2018 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 812453)
Funny you say that, because we all deal with the exact same out of you. I have gone from loathing you and everything you post, to understanding and agreeing with you on a lot of things. One thing has remained constant though, and that is your steadfast refusal to admit you're wrong, be swayed from your opinions or apologize. No matter the circumstance.
But I am so very rarely wrong.

:D


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