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rezburna 09-16-2018 12:03 PM

Re: Roger Goodell, Saints players tour New Orleans' criminal justice system
 
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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 812941)
This one is easy. There is more of a police presence in known black neighborhoods because it is these neighborhoods that have the most crime. Think between MLK Blvd and Louisiana Ave and also the Hollygrove area, the 7th ward. How many white people will be in these areas? I am not gonna argue about anywhere else because I don't live there. And I agree that the sentencing should be the same. But there is no denying in New Orleans that more black people commit crimes, than white people.

Do Black people commit more crime, or are they just arrested more often? The data explicitly shows that White people use and distribute drugs at the same rates or more, but the police aren’t in those neighborhoods looking to lock them up. There’s data that shows searching the car of a White person is more likely to result in a drug hit than searching the car of a Black person, but Black people are searched FAR more often. I’ve lived in the hood. I’ve lived in the suburbs. I saw more drug usage and distribution in the suburbs. Thing is, my personal account wouldn’t mean much without the fact that the data actually supports what I saw.

CharityMike 09-16-2018 03:54 PM

Re: Roger Goodell, Saints players tour New Orleans' criminal justice system
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 812973)
Do Black people commit more crime, or are they just arrested more often? The data explicitly shows that White people use and distribute drugs at the same rates or more, but the police aren’t in those neighborhoods looking to lock them up. There’s data that shows searching the car of a White person is more likely to result in a drug hit than searching the car of a Black person, but Black people are searched FAR more often. I’ve lived in the hood. I’ve lived in the suburbs. I saw more drug usage and distribution in the suburbs. Thing is, my personal account wouldn’t mean much without the fact that the data actually supports what I saw.

Are you kidding me? Why is the only thing you are harping on is drug possession? I'm talking REAL crimes. You know, theft, armed robery, homicides. How many white people do you see on the news committing these crimes? But go ahead and tell me its because the white people do the same crimes but just don't get caught lol.

rezburna 09-16-2018 04:38 PM

Re: Roger Goodell, Saints players tour New Orleans' criminal justice system
 
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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 813198)
Are you kidding me? Why is the only thing you are harping on is drug possession? I'm talking REAL crimes. You know, theft, armed robery, homicides. How many white people do you see on the news committing these crimes? But go ahead and tell me its because the white people do the same crimes but just don't get caught lol.

Most people are in jail for drug possession and distribution. That’s why the focus tends to be on those crimes. Jails aren’t filled with murderers and armed robbers. They’re filled with drug dealers and abusers. They make up nearly half of the prison population.

As far as seeing crime on the news, something I don’t watch, you should mostly see White people committing them because of the stark difference in population. They account for 70% of the crime, 8% higher than their current population if you choose to remove White, Hispanics. So I’d have to ask you why you don’t see them all over the news for committing various crimes. True, the Black community commits a lot of crime in comparison to its population, but they’re also a lot poorer in comparison to their population as well. All criminologists tie crime and poverty together...as have the members of this forum.

So again, if nearly 3 out of every 4 crimes is committed by somebody White based on sheer numbers, why don’t you see it on the news more? White people are arrested more often for everything except homicide and robbery, but the difference in those arrests aren’t enough to explain the difference in the prison population. If the primary source of arrests in this country are drug distribution and abuse, why aren’t White neighborhoods targeted in the same fashion when the statistics show that you’re likely to find exactly what you’re looking for? Cops aren’t patrolling Black neighborhoods looking for robbers and murderers. They’re looking for drug dealers.

CharityMike 09-16-2018 08:31 PM

Re: Roger Goodell, Saints players tour New Orleans' criminal justice system
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 813210)
Most people are in jail for drug possession and distribution. That’s why the focus tends to be on those crimes. Jails aren’t filled with murderers and armed robbers. They’re filled with drug dealers and abusers. They make up nearly half of the prison population.

As far as seeing crime on the news, something I don’t watch, you should mostly see White people committing them because of the stark difference in population. They account for 70% of the crime, 8% higher than their current population if you choose to remove White, Hispanics. So I’d have to ask you why you don’t see them all over the news for committing various crimes. True, the Black community commits a lot of crime in comparison to its population, but they’re also a lot poorer in comparison to their population as well. All criminologists tie crime and poverty together...as have the members of this forum.

So again, if nearly 3 out of every 4 crimes is committed by somebody White based on sheer numbers, why don’t you see it on the news more? White people are arrested more often for everything except homicide and robbery, but the difference in those arrests aren’t enough to explain the difference in the prison population. If the primary source of arrests in this country are drug distribution and abuse, why aren’t White neighborhoods targeted in the same fashion when the statistics show that you’re likely to find exactly what you’re looking for? Cops aren’t patrolling Black neighborhoods looking for robbers and murderers. They’re looking for drug dealers.

Ok..I'm done with this conversation. Talking to a wall would be more productive. And don't worry, what you say is #asexpected. Whoa is me and my black race, we are all oppressed, the white people are always wrong no matter what. So save your comment for your boyfriend Guido. Maybe he strokes your ego the way you like.

And just for the record, you are doing EXACTLY what you claim everyone else is, you only look at it from your point of view. So good luck having an honest conversation and be willing to listen to other opinions.

Supertek 09-17-2018 11:59 AM

Re: Roger Goodell, Saints players tour New Orleans' criminal justice system
 
We have a horrible situation with our court system especially in New Orleans and Jefferson Parish also. Black or White are all being taken advantage of by the judicial system. They are looking for money and not really concerned about helping anybody. Many of these people need help but they are not providing anything for these people they just keep piling on the fines and making it impossible for some people that barely are making enough to stay alive. Greedy people are what they are. We have no social conscious or morality for our people. That's why we lock up more people than any country in this world. They get paid to lock you up.

CharityMike 09-17-2018 12:30 PM

Re: Roger Goodell, Saints players tour New Orleans' criminal justice system
 
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Originally Posted by Supertek (Post 813366)
We have a horrible situation with our court system especially in New Orleans and Jefferson Parish also. Black or White are all being taken advantage of by the judicial system. They are looking for money and not really concerned about helping anybody. Many of these people need help but they are not providing anything for these people they just keep piling on the fines and making it impossible for some people that barely are making enough to stay alive. Greedy people are what they are. We have no social conscious or morality for our people. That's why we lock up more people than any country in this world. They get paid to lock you up.

No bro, haven't you been pay attention, white people are treated with hugs and kisses, while the black people are shackled like slaves.

Supertek 09-17-2018 12:46 PM

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I'm not ready to jump on the bus with the likes of Louis Farrakhan people like him black and white are the one's responsible for stirring the pot does anyone believe that man is carrying the cross for the black people in this country. He is as bad as any KKK people. And I am not such a political person but lets be clear here our system of justice is not built upon reform it is based on the almighty dollar.


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